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		<title>By: Christopher Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Apr 2006 20:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now you&#039;ve gone and done it, I have to read Up From Slavery.  You&#039;re killing me LaShawn, I can&#039;t keep up with all the reading I have to do.

I put a reference to this on my blog but don&#039;t have trackback so consider this one :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now you&#8217;ve gone and done it, I have to read Up From Slavery.  You&#8217;re killing me LaShawn, I can&#8217;t keep up with all the reading I have to do.</p>
<p>I put a reference to this on my blog but don&#8217;t have trackback so consider this one <img src='http://lashawnbarber.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: La Shawn</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/04/03/booker-t-washington/comment-page-1/#comment-67945</link>
		<dc:creator>La Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Apr 2006 23:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m quite familiar with the entire post since I wrote it, and I repeat what I said. Neither that portion nor anything else states implicitly or explicitly that the &quot;debate&quot; isn&#039;t important. And where did I write that the discussion is either/or? Did I imply that DuBois was wrong and Washington was right?  My previous comment stands.  Your opinion of my post is based on what I consider your personal issues and frustrations. I don&#039;t like being the receptacle for someone else&#039;s garbage.

Fortunately, my judgment about your opinion is the only one that ultimately matters on this blog, and I say you misrepresent what I wrote. Perhaps you should learn to explain yourself better and/or read more carefully.

I won&#039;t hold my breath waiting for an apology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m quite familiar with the entire post since I wrote it, and I repeat what I said. Neither that portion nor anything else states implicitly or explicitly that the &#8220;debate&#8221; isn&#8217;t important. And where did I write that the discussion is either/or? Did I imply that DuBois was wrong and Washington was right?  My previous comment stands.  Your opinion of my post is based on what I consider your personal issues and frustrations. I don&#8217;t like being the receptacle for someone else&#8217;s garbage.</p>
<p>Fortunately, my judgment about your opinion is the only one that ultimately matters on this blog, and I say you misrepresent what I wrote. Perhaps you should learn to explain yourself better and/or read more carefully.</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t hold my breath waiting for an apology.</p>
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		<title>By: DarkStar</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/04/03/booker-t-washington/comment-page-1/#comment-67944</link>
		<dc:creator>DarkStar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Apr 2006 23:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LaShawn, my comments were triggered by this:

&lt;em&gt;
At the time, some 30 years after Emancipation, it was a big deal for a black man to speak to a mostly white audience in the South. Washington was and still is being judged for his â€œaccomodationistâ€ views about black progress. His chief critic, W.E.B. DuBois, believed the speech was important but came to distain Washingtonâ€™s views.

DuBois urged blacks to fight for political rights; Washington urged them to focus on vocational training and work to show naysayers they could be industrious and hard-working. Washington believed that â€œprivileges that will come to us must be the result of severe and constant struggle rather than of artificial forcing.â€

Weâ€™re all too familiar with â€œartificial forcing,â€ especially those who had to endure the misguided and ill-conceived policy known as busing.
&lt;/em&gt;

I stated my opinion and in doing so, I don&#039;t think I was out of line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LaShawn, my comments were triggered by this:</p>
<p><em><br />
At the time, some 30 years after Emancipation, it was a big deal for a black man to speak to a mostly white audience in the South. Washington was and still is being judged for his â€œaccomodationistâ€ views about black progress. His chief critic, W.E.B. DuBois, believed the speech was important but came to distain Washingtonâ€™s views.</p>
<p>DuBois urged blacks to fight for political rights; Washington urged them to focus on vocational training and work to show naysayers they could be industrious and hard-working. Washington believed that â€œprivileges that will come to us must be the result of severe and constant struggle rather than of artificial forcing.â€</p>
<p>Weâ€™re all too familiar with â€œartificial forcing,â€ especially those who had to endure the misguided and ill-conceived policy known as busing.<br />
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<p>I stated my opinion and in doing so, I don&#8217;t think I was out of line.</p>
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		<title>By: The American Mind</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/04/03/booker-t-washington/comment-page-1/#comment-67934</link>
		<dc:creator>The American Mind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Apr 2006 09:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Charlie&#039;s Show Prep #68&lt;/strong&gt;

 To summarize the anti-war referendums: they won in a bunch of small towns (got 18 votes in Couderay) as...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Charlie&#8217;s Show Prep #68</strong></p>
<p> To summarize the anti-war referendums: they won in a bunch of small towns (got 18 votes in Couderay) as&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: DarkStar Spouts Off</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/04/03/booker-t-washington/comment-page-1/#comment-67933</link>
		<dc:creator>DarkStar Spouts Off</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Apr 2006 03:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Booker T. vs. DuBois&lt;/strong&gt;

LaShawn Barber has a piece on Booker T. Washington. In her comment section, I wrote something that I am posting here. Plus, I&#039;m adding more. LaShawn&#039;s piece happens to be the catalyst for my finally posting about this, but this</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Booker T. vs. DuBois</strong></p>
<p>LaShawn Barber has a piece on Booker T. Washington. In her comment section, I wrote something that I am posting here. Plus, I&#8217;m adding more. LaShawn&#8217;s piece happens to be the catalyst for my finally posting about this, but this</p>
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		<title>By: DarkStar</title>
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		<dc:creator>DarkStar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Apr 2006 03:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LaShawn, I think your view is over simplistic and an example of the typical sad commentary on the state of political discourse today.

Again, this, to me, is an example of why I think the &quot;conservative&quot; vs. &quot;liberal&quot; &quot;debate&quot; for Blacks is a major waste and an unnecessary distraction.

The debate between Booker T. Washington and W. E. B. DuBois was important.

Yes, Booker T. was correct in stating what he did in the quote you provided, but DuBois was also right in being concerned with the civil rights and protections that were being denied to Negroes. It was not wrong to aggitate for fair due process. It was not wrong to argue for &quot;tilling of the soil.&quot;

Why must the debates and views of two of America&#039;s great men be put into a bin of one or the other? Why not both?

Or, as Avery likes to write, why must it be &quot;OR&quot; vs. &quot;AND&quot;?

&lt;em&gt;Perhaps you didn&#039;t notice, DS, but the post is about Booker T., not DuBois. Nowhere in the post do I even imply the &quot;debate&quot; between DuBois and Booker isn&#039;t important. Do me a favor: learn to value good reading comprehension and don&#039;t take out your frustrations about the &quot;liberal v. conservative&quot; concept on me, OK? I take enough heat as it is, and attributing something to me that I didn&#039;t say or imply is not cool. I&#039;ve banned people for less. - Admin&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LaShawn, I think your view is over simplistic and an example of the typical sad commentary on the state of political discourse today.</p>
<p>Again, this, to me, is an example of why I think the &#8220;conservative&#8221; vs. &#8220;liberal&#8221; &#8220;debate&#8221; for Blacks is a major waste and an unnecessary distraction.</p>
<p>The debate between Booker T. Washington and W. E. B. DuBois was important.</p>
<p>Yes, Booker T. was correct in stating what he did in the quote you provided, but DuBois was also right in being concerned with the civil rights and protections that were being denied to Negroes. It was not wrong to aggitate for fair due process. It was not wrong to argue for &#8220;tilling of the soil.&#8221;</p>
<p>Why must the debates and views of two of America&#8217;s great men be put into a bin of one or the other? Why not both?</p>
<p>Or, as Avery likes to write, why must it be &#8220;OR&#8221; vs. &#8220;AND&#8221;?</p>
<p><em>Perhaps you didn&#8217;t notice, DS, but the post is about Booker T., not DuBois. Nowhere in the post do I even imply the &#8220;debate&#8221; between DuBois and Booker isn&#8217;t important. Do me a favor: learn to value good reading comprehension and don&#8217;t take out your frustrations about the &#8220;liberal v. conservative&#8221; concept on me, OK? I take enough heat as it is, and attributing something to me that I didn&#8217;t say or imply is not cool. I&#8217;ve banned people for less. &#8211; Admin</em></p>
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		<title>By: Michele</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/04/03/booker-t-washington/comment-page-1/#comment-67930</link>
		<dc:creator>Michele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Apr 2006 02:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, this guy has waaaay too much emotional baggage. He&#039;ll probably die of cancer from all that treasured bitterness of his.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, this guy has waaaay too much emotional baggage. He&#8217;ll probably die of cancer from all that treasured bitterness of his.</p>
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		<title>By: mark bey</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/04/03/booker-t-washington/comment-page-1/#comment-67929</link>
		<dc:creator>mark bey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Apr 2006 02:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello  Lashawn  I really appreciate you putting up this post. I read up from slavery about 15 years ago and I absolutely enjoyed it. Although I dont not remember very much about  the book I do remember being inspired by it. When he said up from slavery he really meant it. Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello  Lashawn  I really appreciate you putting up this post. I read up from slavery about 15 years ago and I absolutely enjoyed it. Although I dont not remember very much about  the book I do remember being inspired by it. When he said up from slavery he really meant it. Mark</p>
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		<title>By: Trivium Pursuit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trivium Pursuit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Apr 2006 00:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Booker T. Washington&lt;/strong&gt;

	Tomorrow is Booker T. Washington&#8217;s birthday, and La Shawn Barber writes a piece summarizing his life and accomplishments. One of the best books I ever read aloud to the kids was his autobiography Up From Slavery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Booker T. Washington</strong></p>
<p>	Tomorrow is Booker T. Washington&#8217;s birthday, and La Shawn Barber writes a piece summarizing his life and accomplishments. One of the best books I ever read aloud to the kids was his autobiography Up From Slavery.</p>
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		<title>By: mahndisa</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/04/03/booker-t-washington/comment-page-1/#comment-67924</link>
		<dc:creator>mahndisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 19:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>04 04 06

Well LaShawn: Regarding the controvery between WEB and Booker T, really they were both right. Sort of like Elizabeth Wright from Issues and Views versus a JC Watts type character. She says practical education and capitalism and he says pull yourself up by your bootstraps. Well either way, the intent is to benefit a historically marginalized class of people and obviously the methodology is different. If the tension didn&#039;t exist between those two intellectuals, I wonder if Blacks would have been as successful as we are now. I was always taught that we need people on both sides of the fence and I think that is a more general way of saying that you can skin a cat in more than one way.

BTW the trolls are ridiculous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>04 04 06</p>
<p>Well LaShawn: Regarding the controvery between WEB and Booker T, really they were both right. Sort of like Elizabeth Wright from Issues and Views versus a JC Watts type character. She says practical education and capitalism and he says pull yourself up by your bootstraps. Well either way, the intent is to benefit a historically marginalized class of people and obviously the methodology is different. If the tension didn&#8217;t exist between those two intellectuals, I wonder if Blacks would have been as successful as we are now. I was always taught that we need people on both sides of the fence and I think that is a more general way of saying that you can skin a cat in more than one way.</p>
<p>BTW the trolls are ridiculous.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian MacD.</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/04/03/booker-t-washington/comment-page-1/#comment-67923</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian MacD.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 19:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The blacks mentioned were not brought from Africa, they were brought from the Caribbean.  How could they continue a native culture when they most likely never knew it?  Black were used as slaves because white indentured servants died too quickly in the Caribbean heat, and Amerindians knew the lay of the land and could escape.  So the Portuguese bought slaves from African rulers and imported them.  That is how black slavery in the New World got started.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The blacks mentioned were not brought from Africa, they were brought from the Caribbean.  How could they continue a native culture when they most likely never knew it?  Black were used as slaves because white indentured servants died too quickly in the Caribbean heat, and Amerindians knew the lay of the land and could escape.  So the Portuguese bought slaves from African rulers and imported them.  That is how black slavery in the New World got started.</p>
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		<title>By: Swap Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swap Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 18:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LaShawn Barber has a great piece that discusses the life, mental work, educational habits, focus and goals of Booker T Washington. Mr Washington is a American that we should all look to for a example of how to live and thrive within the land of opportunity. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LaShawn Barber has a great piece that discusses the life, mental work, educational habits, focus and goals of Booker T Washington. Mr Washington is a American that we should all look to for a example of how to live and thrive within the land of opportunity.</p>
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		<title>By: Shade</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/04/03/booker-t-washington/comment-page-1/#comment-67921</link>
		<dc:creator>Shade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 17:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;When their indentures were up they returned to the type of life they had known before they were brought to America. Subsistence farming, a little hunting, etc. This got them in trouble with the Whites who saw them as lazy and no account and a problem to the community.&lt;/i&gt;

Below is a detailed account of the transition from indentured servitude to slavery.  It doesn&#039;t mention the reason that you posted.  Where did you get your info from?

http://www.balchfriends.org/Glimpse/JPetersIntroBkLaws.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>When their indentures were up they returned to the type of life they had known before they were brought to America. Subsistence farming, a little hunting, etc. This got them in trouble with the Whites who saw them as lazy and no account and a problem to the community.</i></p>
<p>Below is a detailed account of the transition from indentured servitude to slavery.  It doesn&#8217;t mention the reason that you posted.  Where did you get your info from?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.balchfriends.org/Glimpse/JPetersIntroBkLaws.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.balchfriends.org/Glimpse/JPetersIntroBkLaws.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dan Hamilton</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/04/03/booker-t-washington/comment-page-1/#comment-67920</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Hamilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 16:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the reasons that Blacks were made slaves instead of indentured was that the first Blacks were indentured. When their indentures were up they returned to the type of life they had known before they were brought to America. Subsistence farming, a little hunting, etc. This got them in trouble with the Whites who saw them as lazy and no account and a problem to the community. Though the Blacks were just continuing their native culture it didn&#039;t fit with the Culture in America. The people in charge (Whites) didn&#039;t want the problems being caused by indentured Blacks completing their time so they changed it so that they were made slaves instead on indentured. That way a responsible person would look after them and make sure they caused no problems. 
Slaves are lazy there is very little reason to be otherwise. This just reinforced the idea that Blacks were lazy.
Culture clash leading to BAD solutions. 

Couldn&#039;t happen today, could it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the reasons that Blacks were made slaves instead of indentured was that the first Blacks were indentured. When their indentures were up they returned to the type of life they had known before they were brought to America. Subsistence farming, a little hunting, etc. This got them in trouble with the Whites who saw them as lazy and no account and a problem to the community. Though the Blacks were just continuing their native culture it didn&#8217;t fit with the Culture in America. The people in charge (Whites) didn&#8217;t want the problems being caused by indentured Blacks completing their time so they changed it so that they were made slaves instead on indentured. That way a responsible person would look after them and make sure they caused no problems.<br />
Slaves are lazy there is very little reason to be otherwise. This just reinforced the idea that Blacks were lazy.<br />
Culture clash leading to BAD solutions. </p>
<p>Couldn&#8217;t happen today, could it.</p>
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		<title>By: Renee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Renee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 15:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#4 and #13
Being a slave didn&#039;t automatically mean you were industrious or hard working (we see that even today).  Just as being white doesn;t mean youa re automatically smarter.  You must remember, the former slave owners and those against educationg blackas believed blacks (slaves) to be inferior, hence why Booker T said &quot;Prove them WRONG!!!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#4 and #13<br />
Being a slave didn&#8217;t automatically mean you were industrious or hard working (we see that even today).  Just as being white doesn;t mean youa re automatically smarter.  You must remember, the former slave owners and those against educationg blackas believed blacks (slaves) to be inferior, hence why Booker T said &#8220;Prove them WRONG!!!&#8221;</p>
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