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		<title>By: La Shawn</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/04/10/channeling-tawana-brawley/comment-page-2/#comment-68115</link>
		<dc:creator>La Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Closed post. See the update:

http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/04/11/fake-rape-duke/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Closed post. See the update:</p>
<p><a href="http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/04/11/fake-rape-duke/" rel="nofollow">http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/04/11/fake-rape-duke/</a></p>
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		<title>By: lukeNC</title>
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		<dc:creator>lukeNC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once again our demonic media plays up something that really misses the actual point of what happened. Why I cant stand the news. 

The deception is ever spreading. 

Too many people of one color allegedly did something to someone of another color. Easy news and easy ratings, so it gets played up.

What about:
Underage drinking
Drunkeness
a woman working as a stripper
men hiring a stripper. 

These things used to be illegal in NC. 

Yet, everyone is fighting because this black woman apparently isnt getting justice fast enough, if anything actually did happen. 

Once again, the media misses the point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again our demonic media plays up something that really misses the actual point of what happened. Why I cant stand the news. </p>
<p>The deception is ever spreading. </p>
<p>Too many people of one color allegedly did something to someone of another color. Easy news and easy ratings, so it gets played up.</p>
<p>What about:<br />
Underage drinking<br />
Drunkeness<br />
a woman working as a stripper<br />
men hiring a stripper. </p>
<p>These things used to be illegal in NC. </p>
<p>Yet, everyone is fighting because this black woman apparently isnt getting justice fast enough, if anything actually did happen. </p>
<p>Once again, the media misses the point.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Duke coach did not really resign. Well, he resigned but he was pretty much forced to do so by the university. It&#039;s embarassing.

I think I am fine with the season being cancelled an the university (maybe) not renewing the players&#039;s scholarships next year. To have an extremely hardcore party, in Duke housing, with strippers, is inappropriate. I do not think some sort of internal discipline is unwarranted.

Presumably no charges will be filed against the players. Based on what is in evidence as of right now, that sounds about right. But since the DA overreached with his earlier statements, nobody is going to be happy. The race-baiters and those who believe the woman will not be content with anything less than charges filed, especially since the DA starting talking about it from the beginning. The anti-race-baiters and those who believe the players will be unhappy that their coach was forced out and their season cancelled because of unsubstantiated allegations.

Great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Duke coach did not really resign. Well, he resigned but he was pretty much forced to do so by the university. It&#8217;s embarassing.</p>
<p>I think I am fine with the season being cancelled an the university (maybe) not renewing the players&#8217;s scholarships next year. To have an extremely hardcore party, in Duke housing, with strippers, is inappropriate. I do not think some sort of internal discipline is unwarranted.</p>
<p>Presumably no charges will be filed against the players. Based on what is in evidence as of right now, that sounds about right. But since the DA overreached with his earlier statements, nobody is going to be happy. The race-baiters and those who believe the woman will not be content with anything less than charges filed, especially since the DA starting talking about it from the beginning. The anti-race-baiters and those who believe the players will be unhappy that their coach was forced out and their season cancelled because of unsubstantiated allegations.</p>
<p>Great.</p>
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		<title>By: suek</title>
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		<dc:creator>suek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;Someone would have seen 3 or 5 guys trying to drag her to the restroom and would have interceded.&gt;&gt;

You know, reading this sentence brought another thought to mind... have you seen the photos of the house?  Did you look at it and say &quot;palacial&quot;?  Now...picture 3-5 guys plus one woman in the type of bathroom you&#039;d expect to find in that house.  
Sexual activities can be conducted in cramped situations, but including force in this situation, I&#039;m not sure it&#039;s physically possible...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;Someone would have seen 3 or 5 guys trying to drag her to the restroom and would have interceded.&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>You know, reading this sentence brought another thought to mind&#8230; have you seen the photos of the house?  Did you look at it and say &#8220;palacial&#8221;?  Now&#8230;picture 3-5 guys plus one woman in the type of bathroom you&#8217;d expect to find in that house.<br />
Sexual activities can be conducted in cramped situations, but including force in this situation, I&#8217;m not sure it&#8217;s physically possible&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Darleen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aliera

It wasn&#039;t just &#039;one&#039; attorney ... via &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/10/AR2006041000887.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Washington Post&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;After reviewing the results of the court-ordered tests for nearly an hour, the attorneys assembled on the steps of the Durham County Courthouse to announce that the evidence exonerated their clients; to call on the Durham County prosecutor, Mike Nifong, to drop the matter; and to express hope that the community could begin to heal from the three-week-old controversy that has exacerbated the city&#039;s longstanding racial, socioeconomic and cultural divides.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Nifong is neither disputing the tests nor saying at this time he&#039;s going drop the investigation (after all, he IS up for re-election ::ahem::).

It is entirely possible this woman is NOT lying, but given that from all reports she was drunk and alcohol/drugs can make recollection highly unreliable.

Of course, this won&#039;t fit the narrative of those that believe the Duke &#039;privileged white boys&#039; are just part and parcel of America&#039;s racist, patriarchal culture of rape. Visiting a few of the left-of-center blogs is to witness an amazing display of spin and/or conspiracy theories.

I covered one particularly ironic post (equating Duke white lacrosse team with white racists who lynched blacks) &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.darleenclick.com/weblog/archives/2006/04/duke_rapists_ar.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. 

Now, I wouldn&#039;t call these young males &quot;innocent&quot;...they were stupid, crass, indecent and, in the case of the emailer who &quot;joked&quot; about &quot;skinning&quot;, a creep of the first order.

But &lt;i&gt;rapists&lt;/i&gt; they are not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aliera</p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t just &#8216;one&#8217; attorney &#8230; via <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/10/AR2006041000887.html" rel="nofollow">Washington Post</a><br />
<blockquote>After reviewing the results of the court-ordered tests for nearly an hour, the attorneys assembled on the steps of the Durham County Courthouse to announce that the evidence exonerated their clients; to call on the Durham County prosecutor, Mike Nifong, to drop the matter; and to express hope that the community could begin to heal from the three-week-old controversy that has exacerbated the city&#8217;s longstanding racial, socioeconomic and cultural divides.</p></blockquote>
<p>Nifong is neither disputing the tests nor saying at this time he&#8217;s going drop the investigation (after all, he IS up for re-election ::ahem::).</p>
<p>It is entirely possible this woman is NOT lying, but given that from all reports she was drunk and alcohol/drugs can make recollection highly unreliable.</p>
<p>Of course, this won&#8217;t fit the narrative of those that believe the Duke &#8216;privileged white boys&#8217; are just part and parcel of America&#8217;s racist, patriarchal culture of rape. Visiting a few of the left-of-center blogs is to witness an amazing display of spin and/or conspiracy theories.</p>
<p>I covered one particularly ironic post (equating Duke white lacrosse team with white racists who lynched blacks) <a href="http://www.darleenclick.com/weblog/archives/2006/04/duke_rapists_ar.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>. </p>
<p>Now, I wouldn&#8217;t call these young males &#8220;innocent&#8221;&#8230;they were stupid, crass, indecent and, in the case of the emailer who &#8220;joked&#8221; about &#8220;skinning&#8221;, a creep of the first order.</p>
<p>But <i>rapists</i> they are not.</p>
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		<title>By: Renee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Renee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UGH, UGH and double UGH

Fox News will be interviewing the &quot;Rev&quot; Jesse Jackson about this sometime in the next 30 minutes (we knew it was coming).  

Where was he yesterday when his bud Teddy Kennedy was making a mockery of Jesse&#039;s beloved Civil Rights movement with the moochers??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UGH, UGH and double UGH</p>
<p>Fox News will be interviewing the &#8220;Rev&#8221; Jesse Jackson about this sometime in the next 30 minutes (we knew it was coming).  </p>
<p>Where was he yesterday when his bud Teddy Kennedy was making a mockery of Jesse&#8217;s beloved Civil Rights movement with the moochers??</p>
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		<title>By: Heather Cook</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather Cook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post La Shawn... I have to admit, I have been leaning to the side of believing her... for no reason other than I don&#039;t trust a team of drunk male college students. I&#039;m just a hand-wringer who hopes it didn&#039;t happen and hopes that if she&#039;s lying then she&#039;s caught and if she&#039;s not then the rapist is caught. I always feel a little dumb when I let my emotions get the better of me and I allow myself to be persuaded by a stereotype. Guess this is why I&#039;m not in any sort of position of power...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post La Shawn&#8230; I have to admit, I have been leaning to the side of believing her&#8230; for no reason other than I don&#8217;t trust a team of drunk male college students. I&#8217;m just a hand-wringer who hopes it didn&#8217;t happen and hopes that if she&#8217;s lying then she&#8217;s caught and if she&#8217;s not then the rapist is caught. I always feel a little dumb when I let my emotions get the better of me and I allow myself to be persuaded by a stereotype. Guess this is why I&#8217;m not in any sort of position of power&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Renee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Renee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A thought that comes to mind is the DA was sort of vague in still pointing the blame on the Duke players (matter fact I noticed he made a point of saying that part of his job is also to clear those who are innocent).  Perhaps he does have information that a rape or some sort of assualt occured HOWEVER not the way the victim claimed and has other suspects (but since he spoke to soon in the intial phases and the media has turned this into a circus he will only say so much).  I almost get the impression (slight but still there) he was trying to prepare the community for other suspects who very well may be different than the initual accused suspects.

just a thought</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A thought that comes to mind is the DA was sort of vague in still pointing the blame on the Duke players (matter fact I noticed he made a point of saying that part of his job is also to clear those who are innocent).  Perhaps he does have information that a rape or some sort of assualt occured HOWEVER not the way the victim claimed and has other suspects (but since he spoke to soon in the intial phases and the media has turned this into a circus he will only say so much).  I almost get the impression (slight but still there) he was trying to prepare the community for other suspects who very well may be different than the initual accused suspects.</p>
<p>just a thought</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Malkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle Malkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;HUNTING YUPPIES IN HARLEM&lt;/strong&gt;

The New York Post follows up on black gangs preying on innocent people in the city. *** Previous: They screamed: &quot;Get Whitey&quot; Related: La Shawn Barber on the Duke lacrosse case and racial double standards....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>HUNTING YUPPIES IN HARLEM</strong></p>
<p>The New York Post follows up on black gangs preying on innocent people in the city. *** Previous: They screamed: &#8220;Get Whitey&#8221; Related: La Shawn Barber on the Duke lacrosse case and racial double standards&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Cas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry guys, the idea that the defense attorneys are telling blatant lies and that in reality there was DNA found on the alleged victim is kind of silly.  Lawyers very rarely make unequivocal statements about evidence when they can&#039;t back them up...there is no way that the DNA results were anything other than what the defense lawyers said:  no matches to any of the 46 players who gave samples.

I&#039;m sorry to see the DA apparently digging in his heels and saying the case isn&#039;t over, unless he has some blockbuster evedence that no one has heard about I don&#039;t see what kind of case he has.

Assuming the photos do show the woman had her injuries when she arrived then he&#039;s got no proof of sex with the players and no proof of any injury that could have come from the players, how is he going to prosecute?  Who is he going to prosecute?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry guys, the idea that the defense attorneys are telling blatant lies and that in reality there was DNA found on the alleged victim is kind of silly.  Lawyers very rarely make unequivocal statements about evidence when they can&#8217;t back them up&#8230;there is no way that the DNA results were anything other than what the defense lawyers said:  no matches to any of the 46 players who gave samples.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry to see the DA apparently digging in his heels and saying the case isn&#8217;t over, unless he has some blockbuster evedence that no one has heard about I don&#8217;t see what kind of case he has.</p>
<p>Assuming the photos do show the woman had her injuries when she arrived then he&#8217;s got no proof of sex with the players and no proof of any injury that could have come from the players, how is he going to prosecute?  Who is he going to prosecute?</p>
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		<title>By: Ian MacD.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian MacD.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shade, a good point, but let me ask you this.  When black &quot;leaders&quot; go on TV and the print media and say things like &quot;this is yet another example of the racism that is virulent in this country&quot;, how do you expect people to react?  Not saying it is the right way to react, but it is the one that first comes to mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shade, a good point, but let me ask you this.  When black &#8220;leaders&#8221; go on TV and the print media and say things like &#8220;this is yet another example of the racism that is virulent in this country&#8221;, how do you expect people to react?  Not saying it is the right way to react, but it is the one that first comes to mind.</p>
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		<title>By: La Shawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>La Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I wrote in the previous comment and what I do on this blog ever day have absolutely &lt;em&gt;nothing&lt;/em&gt; to do with tit-for-tat, and I resent the heck out of you characterizing it that way and for dumping your frustrations on me, Shade. As long as blacks and their so-called leaders cry &quot;Racism!&quot; while ignoring or downplaying &lt;em&gt;our&lt;/em&gt; part in this whole mess, I&#039;ll continue giving MY opinion of THEM. It matters little whether you see it as constructive or not, fortunately. If that causes you even more frustration, I suggest you read less stressful blogs. There are millions out there to choose from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I wrote in the previous comment and what I do on this blog ever day have absolutely <em>nothing</em> to do with tit-for-tat, and I resent the heck out of you characterizing it that way and for dumping your frustrations on me, Shade. As long as blacks and their so-called leaders cry &#8220;Racism!&#8221; while ignoring or downplaying <em>our</em> part in this whole mess, I&#8217;ll continue giving MY opinion of THEM. It matters little whether you see it as constructive or not, fortunately. If that causes you even more frustration, I suggest you read less stressful blogs. There are millions out there to choose from.</p>
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		<title>By: Shade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Apr 2006 14:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why aren&#039;t the attacks aimed solely at the liberal media?  How many black people have control over what the liberal media says?  I mean, if a White supremest group calls black people monkeys, does it warrant me finding some vile insult to direct at whites?  You get a racist black professor at a white university make an anti-white speech, and the result all over the conservative internet is black bashing.  I&#039;m sure that the vast, vast, vast majority of blacks don&#039;t even remotely support the notion of exterminating whites, and vice versa.  I can&#039;t help that this university hired this guy or that the majority white liberal media focuses on him.  I graduated from an HBCU and while many of my professors were probably liberal (as is the case in most universities), none were radical racists.

This reminds me of how as kids we would get into arguments and talk about each other&#039;s mothers.  Our mothers were not involved in our dispute, so realistically they didn&#039;t deserve our insults.  When someone makes a statement about &quot;black people&quot; they are talking about me, my parents, my wife, my children, my friends, etc. etc.

As far as problems in the black community, I see those as problems to be addressed for the purpose of solving them and not thrown in our faces to show us how dysfunctional we are.  Constructive criticism is fine and needed, but a lot of what I read over the net I don&#039;t personally see as constructive.  Hopefully no one views this as an attack because that is not my intention.  I just want to give another point of view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why aren&#8217;t the attacks aimed solely at the liberal media?  How many black people have control over what the liberal media says?  I mean, if a White supremest group calls black people monkeys, does it warrant me finding some vile insult to direct at whites?  You get a racist black professor at a white university make an anti-white speech, and the result all over the conservative internet is black bashing.  I&#8217;m sure that the vast, vast, vast majority of blacks don&#8217;t even remotely support the notion of exterminating whites, and vice versa.  I can&#8217;t help that this university hired this guy or that the majority white liberal media focuses on him.  I graduated from an HBCU and while many of my professors were probably liberal (as is the case in most universities), none were radical racists.</p>
<p>This reminds me of how as kids we would get into arguments and talk about each other&#8217;s mothers.  Our mothers were not involved in our dispute, so realistically they didn&#8217;t deserve our insults.  When someone makes a statement about &#8220;black people&#8221; they are talking about me, my parents, my wife, my children, my friends, etc. etc.</p>
<p>As far as problems in the black community, I see those as problems to be addressed for the purpose of solving them and not thrown in our faces to show us how dysfunctional we are.  Constructive criticism is fine and needed, but a lot of what I read over the net I don&#8217;t personally see as constructive.  Hopefully no one views this as an attack because that is not my intention.  I just want to give another point of view.</p>
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		<title>By: AlieraKieron</title>
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		<dc:creator>AlieraKieron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Apr 2006 14:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excuse the multiple posts. 
You&#039;re right, the headline wasn&#039;t misleading.  I was referring to &quot;The Associated Press is reporting that no DNA matches have been found. If the stripper had sex that night, it wasnâ€™t with any white Duke lacrosse player.&quot; My apologies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excuse the multiple posts.<br />
You&#8217;re right, the headline wasn&#8217;t misleading.  I was referring to &#8220;The Associated Press is reporting that no DNA matches have been found. If the stripper had sex that night, it wasnâ€™t with any white Duke lacrosse player.&#8221; My apologies.</p>
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		<title>By: AlieraKieron</title>
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		<dc:creator>AlieraKieron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Apr 2006 14:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LaShawn, 
Yes, I have. And I email CNN a lot. They&#039;re some of the worst. But you said that it was established that there was no DNA match, when in fact, that&#039;s only been *claimed* by one attorney, and there are now reports that the entire team wasn&#039;t tested - some of them fled the state before the tests were done. Those could be BS too. But I&#039;ll believe it when I hear it from the DA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LaShawn,<br />
Yes, I have. And I email CNN a lot. They&#8217;re some of the worst. But you said that it was established that there was no DNA match, when in fact, that&#8217;s only been *claimed* by one attorney, and there are now reports that the entire team wasn&#8217;t tested &#8211; some of them fled the state before the tests were done. Those could be BS too. But I&#8217;ll believe it when I hear it from the DA.</p>
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