Comments on: The Sad Fate of Lionel Tate

By: Dave B

Dave B — Mon, 22 May 2006 14:55:57 +0000

It’s a sad fate but that what happens when a young man (no matter the race) has no father involvement in their life. Tate knows what’s right and what wrong. He made a decision to carry a gun and hold up a hard working man because his belly was empty. Maybe it’s a good thing. Tate’s arrest may have saved the life of some other innocent person who may have fell victim to him and his gun.

By: Idiongo Udoh

Idiongo Udoh — Sun, 21 May 2006 17:05:13 +0000

One thing I will say is that there has been a systematic attack on the role of the Father in a child’s life. In fact there has been a flurry of research papers showing that a child from a single home is just as balanced or if not more balanced than a child from a two-parent home. I’ve gone through enough articles about same sex parenthood and single parenthood’s superiority over the real thing.
Also there is a shifting of the society towards the bashing of men.When the word “sex offender” is uttered what comes to mind is the human male.
Black men have been put through the greatest uneven playing field ever recorded in human history. The society is not in their favor,the women have a problem with them,its plain torture.
It is time we have a debate that is open and honest about the Black male.

By: Mary Barbour

Mary Barbour — Sat, 20 May 2006 19:28:28 +0000

Lionel Tate’s tragedy has already touched the lives of everyone who has read your blog.

God Bless you.

By: Brad R. Torgersen

Brad R. Torgersen — Sat, 20 May 2006 13:25:44 +0000

Poor or absent fathers are at the root of so many social ills in America. Senseless murder being just one of them. Poor and absent fathers are behind the lack of work ethic so many boys and girls show in school. Poor and absent fathers are behind much of the physical and sexual abuse. Poor and asbent fathers can be traced to the drug problem, the out-of-wedlock children problem, the homeless problem, and so on and so forth.

When a father fails to acquit himself in his (heavy) responsibilities, not only does his family suffer, but society as a whole suffers. 21st century Feminism tries to act like fathers don’t matter. I say, we need fathers–good, hard working, upstanding fathers–more now than we ever have before.

If every boy and girl could count on their father to be a) present and b) law-abiding and c) a hard-working provider who d) honored their mother, whether divorced or not, I think we’d not see nearly so many cases like that of Lionel Tate. Where was this boy’s example when he was young? Who was guiding this young man and instilling in him the values and morals that differentiate men from beasts?

Sad, just sad. And as always, makes me a thousand times grateful for my own dad, who was always there, who worked hard, who loved my sister and I, and who loved our mother, and is still married to her, decades later. I wish every kid had a dad like my dad. I wish every dad had the ethics and iron that my father has.

By: creative dude

creative dude — Sat, 20 May 2006 04:23:13 +0000

We will have accountability. Our only long range set of choices involve which one we will have. We can have personnel accountability, we take control of our actions. Such as, we do not stick our hand in the fire. If we fail at that, we can have governmental accountability. The government take charge and controls our actions. If we fail at that, sooner or later we have universal accountability. We get burnt. The further away from choosing our actions for ourselves, the worse life will bite us when the time comes.

By: Mark La Roi

Mark La Roi — Sat, 20 May 2006 03:28:59 +0000

“In the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, I pray that Tate becomes a witness to the glory of the living God.”

~Amen and amen.

By: Mark La Roi

Mark La Roi — Sat, 20 May 2006 03:28:01 +0000

There are a lot of people here ready to write this kid off forever, and you know what? You are part of the problem.

His killing of the girl wasn’t intentional, and while he has committed crimes for which he MUST pay, to toss him away and forget about him is exactly what cements kids like him in that life!

I’ve been there, I did my crimes, but thank God for saving me, and before saving me for putting people in my life who invested enough time in me to make me think that there might be something better.

You got a mass murderer? A rapist? A child molester? Then talk to me about your severe punishments. I’d be willing to bet that this kid hasn’t had a MAN invest in his life at any point, and your suggestions of throwing him away will only ensure that the “men” who do invest in his life will only point him toward being a more dangerous person when he gets out.

If you’re a person who did not suggest throwing him away, then this isn’t a message to you.

By: Mark La Roi

Mark La Roi — Sat, 20 May 2006 03:21:54 +0000

“In most cases of unwed motherhood, the father didnâ€™t fall away â€” he was pushed! Yet as the shocking credulity of prosecutors in the face of a woman making the most blatantly obvious false accusations of rape illustrates, the wish to preserve the image of the woman as a pure helpless victim often overrides all common sense.”

~Hogwash! If guys were waiting until they had a ring on their finger before lying down with a woman and treated that woman like a woman should be treated (after of course, beign sure to marry a woman who deserved such treatment but still keeping his pants on until then) single motherhood would account for a tiny fraction of the population.

“Itâ€™s this kind of idiot and the mediaâ€™s obsession with selective reporting that fuels the stereotype of black men. To those who have never scene or spoken to a black man in person this becomes their reality. The bias in reporting is alive and well and living in both the MSM and so called new media.

Comment by B Gad â€” 05.19.06 @ 3:28 pm

What? Who has never seen or spoken to a black man in person?

Comment by La Shawn â€” 05.19.06 @ 3:47 pm”

~This is a good illustration of the divide in the US and the difficulty in overcoming it. There are White people in this country who can go through a normal day without once dealing with a Black person. There are areas of this country in which no Black people live. I had a friend in the late 80’s who, at 26, told me that growing up in one of the rural areas of Wisconsin he didn’t meet his first Black person until he was 17 years old and had traveled to Chicago. (Not that there are no Blacks in Wisconsin; that just happened to be the occasion for him.)

It is the norm for some to this day.

By: Buckblog

Buckblog — Sat, 20 May 2006 01:18:50 +0000

Wasn’t this the kid who beat a little girl to death,claimed he was imitating pro wrestling and didn’t know what he was doing? Now this? There is something more wrong here than being part of a single parent family. Somewhere down the line his moral compass migrated from true north. He also doesn’t appear to be the crispiest tator tot in the oven.

By: Kathleen

Kathleen — Fri, 19 May 2006 23:03:12 +0000

Yeah…I just went to my mom’s nursing home, and encountered three black men and four or five black women, just walking down the hall to get to her room. And they were all working hard, doing jobs that I don’t think they get paid half enough for. To me those folks are saints. I don’t know what part of the U.S. B Gad is talking about.

IC, your mom sounds like she was pure gold. My mom made us memorize Bible verses when we were young. It’s amazing how those verses, planted deep within my mind, have bubbled up at just the right times when I needed them. “Who can find a virtuous woman? For her price is far above rubies.” Proverbs 31:10

By: Shade

Shade — Fri, 19 May 2006 20:23:06 +0000

Are we talking about people in America? I’m sure that there are individuals in other countries such as China, Russia, Bosnia, etc. who have never seen a black person in person. I have heard about such people in America numerous decades ago. I’m skeptical as to whether I could go to someplace today like Maine a find someone who has never seen a black man/person in person.

By: La Shawn

La Shawn — Fri, 19 May 2006 19:47:39 +0000

What? Who has never seen or spoken to a black man in person?

By: B Gad

B Gad — Fri, 19 May 2006 19:28:06 +0000

It’s this kind of idiot and the media’s obsession with selective reporting that fuels the stereotype of black men. To those who have never scene or spoken to a black man in person this becomes their reality. The bias in reporting is alive and well and living in both the MSM and so called new media.

By: joey

joey — Fri, 19 May 2006 17:23:16 +0000

Though, I do strongly hope for his salvation, I feel, the judgment cast upon him on this blog and calling it stupidity is wrong.

First of all for a 12 year old to commit such a crime, something is terribly wrong. What… was he just a stupid 12 year old or were there more serious issues, than stupidity, behind this crime?

What was done for this boy to help him reform, besides probation?

Curiously, what would have happened if this were a white kid’s story?

I guess judging and shaming Blacks is the way to get us and our communities on our feet, right? I don’t think it works. Rather than blogging about his allegid “stupidity” worsening the situation for him. Why don’t you meet with him yourself and introduce him to Christ personally? You seem to care, at least a little… you said you pray for him.

By: Frank

Frank — Fri, 19 May 2006 16:57:46 +0000

The only waste in this story is the poor little girl he murdered Its only a shame he didn’t rob the pizza man first