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		<title>By: Christopher Taylor</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/06/16/no-child-left-behind/comment-page-2/#comment-71529</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 16:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But in a country with diverse races, some which may possess greater abilities than others&lt;/blockquote&gt;Could you expand on this some?  Are you saying that whites genetically are poorer at sports or asians are better at math by their biology or something?</description>
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<p>Could you expand on this some?  Are you saying that whites genetically are poorer at sports or asians are better at math by their biology or something?</p>
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		<title>By: DarkStar</title>
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		<dc:creator>DarkStar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 02:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Sometimes not thinking outside the walls of the box can lead one to make assumptions.&lt;/em&gt;

Like the assumption you just made?

I know of a woman who had her business running with a partner. The partner did the day work, she did the evening work. During the day, she intended to home school her kids with the help of her mother-in-law who was a former teacher.

Unfortunately, the mother-in-law got sick and passed. Meanwhile, the business failed, doing serious damage to the financial situation. Her children are now in public school.

I&#039;ll ask again about single mothers being expected to home school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Sometimes not thinking outside the walls of the box can lead one to make assumptions.</em></p>
<p>Like the assumption you just made?</p>
<p>I know of a woman who had her business running with a partner. The partner did the day work, she did the evening work. During the day, she intended to home school her kids with the help of her mother-in-law who was a former teacher.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, the mother-in-law got sick and passed. Meanwhile, the business failed, doing serious damage to the financial situation. Her children are now in public school.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll ask again about single mothers being expected to home school.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 02:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great reading on a subject very close to home for me right now!  I pulled my child from the $22K a year private school she had attended from the age of three.  My husband and I are self-employed and the grandparents are all deceased (60 - 80% of the tuitions in the school were paid by the GPâ€™s) so we had to constantly evaluate our return on investment.  Up through third grade, we were content.  Fourth started a gradual downward trend in our confidence and by sixth I had a concrete list of what I felt was missing in my childâ€™s education.  #29 (Spunky) mentioned a school admin. stumbling over the definition of well-educated.  I want MY child to be able to evaluate input (print, verbal, media message, etc) from a solid framework of the worldâ€™s history/literature and without any emotion distorting his thinking, interpret its meaning and relevance to him, THEN decide how he feels about it.  That should help insulate from the cheap liberal tactic of appealing to emotion rather than intellect.  Dorothy Sayers said it so well in â€œThe Lost Tools of Learningâ€ - â€œ..they are a prey to words in their emotions instead of being the masters of them in their intellects...â€  If interested in reading this excellent essay, here is the link: http://www.gbt.org/text/sayers.html
Do private schools do better?  I think both Kelsey J and Suek had comments about this...yes, assuming concerned parents and the ability to boot disruptive kids.  BUT some parents are wealthy and want the exclusivity, beyond that they care little other than that they are not bothered.  And some schools will keep disruptive students because they donâ€™t want to lose a wealthy parent.  So as parents, we are the best monitors whether our child is in public or private.  Caring teachers and smaller classes are definitely an advantage.  Also, a curriculum not dictated by the state, presumably.  
One of the odd moments that made me realize the incredible dissemination of rapper culture was when I was sitting in carpool line at this private school (98% white).  With my window down, I could hear the conversations and was dumbfounded to hear, well...it was the opposite of â€œHe Talk Like a White Boyâ€.  The students, particularly the girls, were peppering their speech with phrases and intonations that were black.  I asked my daughter when she got in the car where everyone was hearing this language....and of course it was music and TV.  Fresh Prince was quite popular.  â€œDisâ€ and  â€œWhat he doinâ€™?â€ etc. - and yes, I minded...because I didnâ€™t see a comparable ability to speak with any great clarity when appropriate.  If they could do that when needed and then wanted to use colloquial speech for fun, o.k. with me.  Comment #56 about the white girl and her â€œpimped outâ€ baby.  Why would anyone aspire to this image?  If rappers - perps of ghetto chic -  were not perceived as cool, would black (and other) students focus on other icons as the epitome of success/cool?  Backward caps, ghetto-speak and droopy pants are also a popular look at my sonâ€™s 99% white school.  Why?  Music is a more powerful vehicle/destructive force than we may care to think.  
Back to education..comment #50: â€œAmericans donâ€™t take education seriously.....â€ and various other comments noting the need for standards, measurability and the distortion created by PC imperatives in the public school system.  It would be nice if our standard was to educate our citizens in the basics - reading,writing and math - and to appreciate America first, and itsâ€™ individual groups later..much later.  So instead of my child having to study the Ute indians and their vast contributions to the advancement of mankind, she could study the Greeks and the roots of democracy.  Take out all of the PC garbage, replace it with a classical model that uses history as itsâ€™ framework and suddenly, there are clear goals and measurable standards.  Child should be able to read â€œXâ€ by this grade and know â€œYâ€ by that grade.  Canâ€™t be dumbed down...the list is the list. You learn it or you donâ€™t - if you canâ€™t, well there is the reason to have vocational schools.  And guess what?  All of the idiotic swill forced on us by the graduates of the education schools and the PC police can be dumped.  Your child will still have an appreciation for other cultures....he had to learn about them in the natural framework of history instead of having them forced down his throat as a pander to his own race or to that of others in his school.  â€œE pluribus unumâ€...we are putting the infinite many before the one - does any other country in the world place so much educational emphasis on its components rather than its whole?  
I am using the classical model as my standard for my children.  At the end of sixth, neither could identify much outside the U.S other than naming the oceans and continents. One seemed stuck at an elementary level of math, bringing home the same fraction worksheets year after year.  Both had a good background in American history, but zero frame of reference with which to appreciate it.  The reading lists sent home had some good books, a few of the truly classic childrenâ€™s literature (some Grimmâ€™s were read) and a large amount of current fiction of questionable value.  Read, Read, Read was the theme, but I felt the act of reading was overemphasized...content is important, too.  I was concerned that perhaps I was asking too much, for example insisting that they be able to fill in blank maps of the world with every country, capital and main physical features, but my children have consistently proven that genius is not necessary to accomplish - just expectations .  Demanding less, dumbing down and pandering to PC agendas will not help America remain competitive in the world.  At this rate, the next stage of â€œNo Child Left Behindâ€ will be â€œNo American Left Behindâ€.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great reading on a subject very close to home for me right now!  I pulled my child from the $22K a year private school she had attended from the age of three.  My husband and I are self-employed and the grandparents are all deceased (60 &#8211; 80% of the tuitions in the school were paid by the GPâ€™s) so we had to constantly evaluate our return on investment.  Up through third grade, we were content.  Fourth started a gradual downward trend in our confidence and by sixth I had a concrete list of what I felt was missing in my childâ€™s education.  #29 (Spunky) mentioned a school admin. stumbling over the definition of well-educated.  I want MY child to be able to evaluate input (print, verbal, media message, etc) from a solid framework of the worldâ€™s history/literature and without any emotion distorting his thinking, interpret its meaning and relevance to him, THEN decide how he feels about it.  That should help insulate from the cheap liberal tactic of appealing to emotion rather than intellect.  Dorothy Sayers said it so well in â€œThe Lost Tools of Learningâ€ &#8211; â€œ..they are a prey to words in their emotions instead of being the masters of them in their intellects&#8230;â€  If interested in reading this excellent essay, here is the link: <a href="http://www.gbt.org/text/sayers.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.gbt.org/text/sayers.html</a><br />
Do private schools do better?  I think both Kelsey J and Suek had comments about this&#8230;yes, assuming concerned parents and the ability to boot disruptive kids.  BUT some parents are wealthy and want the exclusivity, beyond that they care little other than that they are not bothered.  And some schools will keep disruptive students because they donâ€™t want to lose a wealthy parent.  So as parents, we are the best monitors whether our child is in public or private.  Caring teachers and smaller classes are definitely an advantage.  Also, a curriculum not dictated by the state, presumably.<br />
One of the odd moments that made me realize the incredible dissemination of rapper culture was when I was sitting in carpool line at this private school (98% white).  With my window down, I could hear the conversations and was dumbfounded to hear, well&#8230;it was the opposite of â€œHe Talk Like a White Boyâ€.  The students, particularly the girls, were peppering their speech with phrases and intonations that were black.  I asked my daughter when she got in the car where everyone was hearing this language&#8230;.and of course it was music and TV.  Fresh Prince was quite popular.  â€œDisâ€ and  â€œWhat he doinâ€™?â€ etc. &#8211; and yes, I minded&#8230;because I didnâ€™t see a comparable ability to speak with any great clarity when appropriate.  If they could do that when needed and then wanted to use colloquial speech for fun, o.k. with me.  Comment #56 about the white girl and her â€œpimped outâ€ baby.  Why would anyone aspire to this image?  If rappers &#8211; perps of ghetto chic &#8211;  were not perceived as cool, would black (and other) students focus on other icons as the epitome of success/cool?  Backward caps, ghetto-speak and droopy pants are also a popular look at my sonâ€™s 99% white school.  Why?  Music is a more powerful vehicle/destructive force than we may care to think.<br />
Back to education..comment #50: â€œAmericans donâ€™t take education seriously&#8230;..â€ and various other comments noting the need for standards, measurability and the distortion created by PC imperatives in the public school system.  It would be nice if our standard was to educate our citizens in the basics &#8211; reading,writing and math &#8211; and to appreciate America first, and itsâ€™ individual groups later..much later.  So instead of my child having to study the Ute indians and their vast contributions to the advancement of mankind, she could study the Greeks and the roots of democracy.  Take out all of the PC garbage, replace it with a classical model that uses history as itsâ€™ framework and suddenly, there are clear goals and measurable standards.  Child should be able to read â€œXâ€ by this grade and know â€œYâ€ by that grade.  Canâ€™t be dumbed down&#8230;the list is the list. You learn it or you donâ€™t &#8211; if you canâ€™t, well there is the reason to have vocational schools.  And guess what?  All of the idiotic swill forced on us by the graduates of the education schools and the PC police can be dumped.  Your child will still have an appreciation for other cultures&#8230;.he had to learn about them in the natural framework of history instead of having them forced down his throat as a pander to his own race or to that of others in his school.  â€œE pluribus unumâ€&#8230;we are putting the infinite many before the one &#8211; does any other country in the world place so much educational emphasis on its components rather than its whole?<br />
I am using the classical model as my standard for my children.  At the end of sixth, neither could identify much outside the U.S other than naming the oceans and continents. One seemed stuck at an elementary level of math, bringing home the same fraction worksheets year after year.  Both had a good background in American history, but zero frame of reference with which to appreciate it.  The reading lists sent home had some good books, a few of the truly classic childrenâ€™s literature (some Grimmâ€™s were read) and a large amount of current fiction of questionable value.  Read, Read, Read was the theme, but I felt the act of reading was overemphasized&#8230;content is important, too.  I was concerned that perhaps I was asking too much, for example insisting that they be able to fill in blank maps of the world with every country, capital and main physical features, but my children have consistently proven that genius is not necessary to accomplish &#8211; just expectations .  Demanding less, dumbing down and pandering to PC agendas will not help America remain competitive in the world.  At this rate, the next stage of â€œNo Child Left Behindâ€ will be â€œNo American Left Behindâ€.</p>
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		<title>By: suek</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/06/16/no-child-left-behind/comment-page-2/#comment-71392</link>
		<dc:creator>suek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 19:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;Itâ€™s a gross mistake, however, to allow the govâ€™t to run schools, &gt;&gt;

The &quot;government&quot; is _us_!  

&gt;&gt;Quit supporting public schools!&gt;&gt;

Don&#039;t quit - quitters never win!  Get out there and return control to the local voters.  Don&#039;t &quot;quit&quot; public schools - take them back!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;Itâ€™s a gross mistake, however, to allow the govâ€™t to run schools, &gt;&gt;</p>
<p>The &#8220;government&#8221; is _us_!  </p>
<p>&gt;&gt;Quit supporting public schools!&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t quit &#8211; quitters never win!  Get out there and return control to the local voters.  Don&#8217;t &#8220;quit&#8221; public schools &#8211; take them back!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike's Noise</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/06/16/no-child-left-behind/comment-page-2/#comment-71373</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike's Noise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 17:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;LaShawn Barber on why &#039;No Child Left Behind&#039; has failed&lt;/strong&gt;

If you are not reading LaShawn Barber regularly, here is a recent essay that illustrates why you should be. She tackles the shortcomings of the Bush Administration&#039;s No Child Left Behind education initiative, a plan that is failing, according to</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>LaShawn Barber on why &#8216;No Child Left Behind&#8217; has failed</strong></p>
<p>If you are not reading LaShawn Barber regularly, here is a recent essay that illustrates why you should be. She tackles the shortcomings of the Bush Administration&#8217;s No Child Left Behind education initiative, a plan that is failing, according to</p>
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		<title>By: Laura(southernxyl)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura(southernxyl)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 17:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doc, how are you going to contribute to these kids&#039; education if you don&#039;t know they exist?  The kid I posted about - if he&#039;s sitting at home wrapped in a bedsheet, how will you know about him?  You could pay his tuition, but if his mother&#039;s in a drug-induced fog she won&#039;t pick out a school or see that he goes.  Without public education you won&#039;t have the truancy people finding kids like that and threatening to jail their parents if they let the kids sit home and rot.  They will drop right off the cliff - except they won&#039;t, they&#039;ll be hanging around in the streets, uneducated and unemployable.  And won&#039;t that be a positive thing for our cities and for the economy.

I&#039;ve had my kid in both public and parochial schools, and let me tell you, both kinds are capable of making breathtakingly stupid decisions.  There&#039;s nothing magic about church schools or homeschools.  Human beings still run them.  They still hire humans as teachers and administrators.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doc, how are you going to contribute to these kids&#8217; education if you don&#8217;t know they exist?  The kid I posted about &#8211; if he&#8217;s sitting at home wrapped in a bedsheet, how will you know about him?  You could pay his tuition, but if his mother&#8217;s in a drug-induced fog she won&#8217;t pick out a school or see that he goes.  Without public education you won&#8217;t have the truancy people finding kids like that and threatening to jail their parents if they let the kids sit home and rot.  They will drop right off the cliff &#8211; except they won&#8217;t, they&#8217;ll be hanging around in the streets, uneducated and unemployable.  And won&#8217;t that be a positive thing for our cities and for the economy.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had my kid in both public and parochial schools, and let me tell you, both kinds are capable of making breathtakingly stupid decisions.  There&#8217;s nothing magic about church schools or homeschools.  Human beings still run them.  They still hire humans as teachers and administrators.</p>
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		<title>By: Doc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 16:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Laura:
Like you, I too care about the kids whose parents &#039;canâ€™t or wonâ€™t take a hand in their kidsâ€™ education&#039;. I&#039;ll gladly contribute to help them go to a church school or be homeschooled either in their own home or someone else&#039;s. It&#039;s a gross mistake, however, to allow the gov&#039;t to run schools, and an injustice to coerce me to pay money to allow the gov&#039;t to miseducate someone else&#039;s kids. Quit supporting public schools!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Laura:<br />
Like you, I too care about the kids whose parents &#8216;canâ€™t or wonâ€™t take a hand in their kidsâ€™ education&#8217;. I&#8217;ll gladly contribute to help them go to a church school or be homeschooled either in their own home or someone else&#8217;s. It&#8217;s a gross mistake, however, to allow the gov&#8217;t to run schools, and an injustice to coerce me to pay money to allow the gov&#8217;t to miseducate someone else&#8217;s kids. Quit supporting public schools!</p>
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		<title>By: suek</title>
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		<dc:creator>suek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 16:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;I believe the hip hop culture is indicative of Americaâ€™s cultural problems in general, not just among African Americans.&gt;&gt;

Two tv shows I saw over the weekend that are about as far out as you can imagine, and yet still offer some thought on the problem within the culture:
1) Animal Planet, Saturday night.  &quot;Killer Elephants&quot;  There is a preserve for elephants.  I didn&#039;t hear the beginning, but apparently they established it with small herds of female elephants.  The young males that had been born in the preserve(young, in this case, is about 20-25 years old!) were apparently going into &quot;must&quot; (a condition of very high sexual impulses) and challenging rhinos - also protected there - and killing them.  Apparently, normally the young males challenge other more dominant males, and when they are dominated by them, the &quot;must&quot; period is suppressed.  These young bull elephants were all close to the same age and size.  They were entering into this period of sexual activity earlier than &quot;normal&quot;.  They proposed to control the killing of rhinos by the young bull elephants by bringing in mature bull elephants that would dominate the young bulls and cause them to drop out of &quot;must&quot;.  As they closed the show, they didn&#039;t have any answers as to whether they were going to be successful, but one young bull that had been closely observed had apparently joined with one of the mature bulls and had ended his premature &quot;must&quot;.  
I think that as unrelated as this may seem, it shows that the absence of fathers in a population can be a contributing factor to delinquency.  I know we knew that, but haven&#039;t seen it quite so specifically addressed in the animal kingdom.

2) National Geographic, Sunday night, &quot;High Security Prisons&quot;
The inmates - to a certain extent - run the asylum.  These are all violent offenders.  They form gangs that are based on race.  It is absolutely impossible to be in a group that is not of one race, and personal safety is nil unless you belong to a group.  The reporter asked a prisoner about some particular day to day interactions, and the prisoner said he wouldn&#039;t answer.  The reporter persisted, asking the same question a different way, and the man said basically &quot;I told you I wouldn&#039;t answer.  You just disrespected me by asking again.  I wouldn&#039;t do anything to you &quot;this time&quot; because I know you&#039;re ignorant, but if you were in here and did that ... &quot; left unfinished, but not unclear.  
These people finish their terms, and return to their &quot;homeys&quot;.  I&#039;ve wondered at the &quot;s/he disrespected me&quot; violence/excuse that is so common - maybe this is where it comes from?  and the racism.  It&#039;s like a poison we are continually pouring back into our society.  
I was appalled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;I believe the hip hop culture is indicative of Americaâ€™s cultural problems in general, not just among African Americans.&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>Two tv shows I saw over the weekend that are about as far out as you can imagine, and yet still offer some thought on the problem within the culture:<br />
1) Animal Planet, Saturday night.  &#8220;Killer Elephants&#8221;  There is a preserve for elephants.  I didn&#8217;t hear the beginning, but apparently they established it with small herds of female elephants.  The young males that had been born in the preserve(young, in this case, is about 20-25 years old!) were apparently going into &#8220;must&#8221; (a condition of very high sexual impulses) and challenging rhinos &#8211; also protected there &#8211; and killing them.  Apparently, normally the young males challenge other more dominant males, and when they are dominated by them, the &#8220;must&#8221; period is suppressed.  These young bull elephants were all close to the same age and size.  They were entering into this period of sexual activity earlier than &#8220;normal&#8221;.  They proposed to control the killing of rhinos by the young bull elephants by bringing in mature bull elephants that would dominate the young bulls and cause them to drop out of &#8220;must&#8221;.  As they closed the show, they didn&#8217;t have any answers as to whether they were going to be successful, but one young bull that had been closely observed had apparently joined with one of the mature bulls and had ended his premature &#8220;must&#8221;.<br />
I think that as unrelated as this may seem, it shows that the absence of fathers in a population can be a contributing factor to delinquency.  I know we knew that, but haven&#8217;t seen it quite so specifically addressed in the animal kingdom.</p>
<p>2) National Geographic, Sunday night, &#8220;High Security Prisons&#8221;<br />
The inmates &#8211; to a certain extent &#8211; run the asylum.  These are all violent offenders.  They form gangs that are based on race.  It is absolutely impossible to be in a group that is not of one race, and personal safety is nil unless you belong to a group.  The reporter asked a prisoner about some particular day to day interactions, and the prisoner said he wouldn&#8217;t answer.  The reporter persisted, asking the same question a different way, and the man said basically &#8220;I told you I wouldn&#8217;t answer.  You just disrespected me by asking again.  I wouldn&#8217;t do anything to you &#8220;this time&#8221; because I know you&#8217;re ignorant, but if you were in here and did that &#8230; &#8221; left unfinished, but not unclear.<br />
These people finish their terms, and return to their &#8220;homeys&#8221;.  I&#8217;ve wondered at the &#8220;s/he disrespected me&#8221; violence/excuse that is so common &#8211; maybe this is where it comes from?  and the racism.  It&#8217;s like a poison we are continually pouring back into our society.<br />
I was appalled.</p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 15:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the comments by Kelsey J but I want to comment on the hip hop culture. One, I believe the hip hop culture is indicative of America&#039;s cultural problems in general, not just among African Americans. Like Star Parker says in &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;White Ghetto&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;, the moral collapse in the urban centers is just reflective of what&#039;s happening all across middle class America. So I don&#039;t think that hip hop is necessarily the cause of the problem, but it certainly reflects and maybe, exacerbates a problem in America not just in an American ghetto.

On the other hand, there are at least 4 hip hop/rap stars under 35 years old whose music is not full of violence (but may have explicit sexual lyrics) who are among the richest people under 40 years old. Will Smith who&#039;s known for keeping his lyrics clean, is worth a cool $188 million dollars. Jennifer Lopez is worth $255 million dollars. Jay-Z ( Shawn Carter) is worth $286 million dollars and Sean (Diddy) Combs, who dropped out of college and talked his way into a ground level, gofer type job at a New York record company in order to break into the music business, is worth $315 million dollars. 

Many of the hip hop/rap artists that have the dirtiest and most violent lyrics may also be worth tens of millions of dollars, but the majority of their profits go to the white record distributors who have most of the control over what music gets wide distribution.

I have had no problems avoiding and rejecting the world of violent crime and drugs in search of money, but I think I would have a hard time rejecting an opportunity in the hip hop music world even if I was encouraged to use profanity and sex in my lyrics by those in control of distribution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the comments by Kelsey J but I want to comment on the hip hop culture. One, I believe the hip hop culture is indicative of America&#8217;s cultural problems in general, not just among African Americans. Like Star Parker says in <b><i>White Ghetto</i></b>, the moral collapse in the urban centers is just reflective of what&#8217;s happening all across middle class America. So I don&#8217;t think that hip hop is necessarily the cause of the problem, but it certainly reflects and maybe, exacerbates a problem in America not just in an American ghetto.</p>
<p>On the other hand, there are at least 4 hip hop/rap stars under 35 years old whose music is not full of violence (but may have explicit sexual lyrics) who are among the richest people under 40 years old. Will Smith who&#8217;s known for keeping his lyrics clean, is worth a cool $188 million dollars. Jennifer Lopez is worth $255 million dollars. Jay-Z ( Shawn Carter) is worth $286 million dollars and Sean (Diddy) Combs, who dropped out of college and talked his way into a ground level, gofer type job at a New York record company in order to break into the music business, is worth $315 million dollars. </p>
<p>Many of the hip hop/rap artists that have the dirtiest and most violent lyrics may also be worth tens of millions of dollars, but the majority of their profits go to the white record distributors who have most of the control over what music gets wide distribution.</p>
<p>I have had no problems avoiding and rejecting the world of violent crime and drugs in search of money, but I think I would have a hard time rejecting an opportunity in the hip hop music world even if I was encouraged to use profanity and sex in my lyrics by those in control of distribution.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelsey J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelsey J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 08:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DarkStar asks the question that I ask myself several times a year and have asked myself since I began teaching.  When I taught at a school that had the highest tuition in the area, I had to figure out how to engage the students. And I still wonder how to make the kids care when most of the kids I&#039;m teaching have probation officers. (Like DarkStar also says, the anti-intellectualism is not only seen in poor schools.)
   The Admin. says that the problems go back to the home.  I agree.  I also think most parents want their children to do well, be respectful, and be successful in school.  Some just aren&#039;t good parents.  But as public school teachers, we teach everyone.  Good parents, bad parents, or no parents.  What&#039;s the answer?   
   I always go back to Truth and Grace.  Jesus said the Truth will set you free.  And he came in Grace and to give us Grace.  We have the obligation as Christians to tell the truth and to do it with Grace. 
    I work hard; I make my classes relevant;  I expect all my students to do their best and to behave in a way that respects others. I test them and expect them to learn.  What else can be done?
   Don&#039;t you think Christians could have an enormous impact on public schools by praying for them every week?  Also, how about helping out?
   One of my daughters went to a poor elementary school, one to a wealthy one.  At the poor school, there were 4 of us in the PTA. I was the only parent who helped out weekly. At the other school, there were probably 50 that attended the meetings alone. And more than that helped out at the school.  Wouldn&#039;t it be great if groups in a church adopted poor schools so these kids could also benefit from the attention of the community?  
   I would love for businessmen to come in and talk to my classes about work ethic, possible careers, and how language and learning will affect their ability to earn a living.  I tell them, but I&#039;m like a mom.  We certainly have credibility, but it helps to hear it from the horse&#039;s mouth. 
   I agree NCLB gives us data, but we have to make sure we react to the data in an appropriate way.  Unfortunately, the biggest impact so far is to have students do a lot of test prep and to focus  everything on the standards that are tested.  We have to make sure that the tests aren&#039;t the focus of learning.  
   Regarding the issue of race which was LaShawn&#039;s original emphasis:  I&#039;m also concerned about continued low scores for black students. I hate to sound like an old lady, but I think we can&#039;t ignore the effect of rap music, the hip-hop culture, and intellectual apologists like Michael Eric Dyson. A young white girl I know who dropped out of school and  had a baby who needed two DNA tests to determine the father talks about how she wants her baby dressed in only brand name clothes so he looks like a pimp or a little &quot;g&quot;. This is her goal for her son.  This doesn&#039;t come from her family, but it does come from the music she hears and the TV she watches.  How much harder would it be for black kids to avoid this when they are also told that it&#039;s not just cool, it&#039;s part of being black. It&#039;s a lie, but when kids listen to the music hours a day, it can seem real..especially at a time when they are trying to get a handle on who they are and their place in the world. What do you think?  Am I over-reacting, or is the hip-hop culture a huge part of the problem?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DarkStar asks the question that I ask myself several times a year and have asked myself since I began teaching.  When I taught at a school that had the highest tuition in the area, I had to figure out how to engage the students. And I still wonder how to make the kids care when most of the kids I&#8217;m teaching have probation officers. (Like DarkStar also says, the anti-intellectualism is not only seen in poor schools.)<br />
   The Admin. says that the problems go back to the home.  I agree.  I also think most parents want their children to do well, be respectful, and be successful in school.  Some just aren&#8217;t good parents.  But as public school teachers, we teach everyone.  Good parents, bad parents, or no parents.  What&#8217;s the answer?<br />
   I always go back to Truth and Grace.  Jesus said the Truth will set you free.  And he came in Grace and to give us Grace.  We have the obligation as Christians to tell the truth and to do it with Grace.<br />
    I work hard; I make my classes relevant;  I expect all my students to do their best and to behave in a way that respects others. I test them and expect them to learn.  What else can be done?<br />
   Don&#8217;t you think Christians could have an enormous impact on public schools by praying for them every week?  Also, how about helping out?<br />
   One of my daughters went to a poor elementary school, one to a wealthy one.  At the poor school, there were 4 of us in the PTA. I was the only parent who helped out weekly. At the other school, there were probably 50 that attended the meetings alone. And more than that helped out at the school.  Wouldn&#8217;t it be great if groups in a church adopted poor schools so these kids could also benefit from the attention of the community?<br />
   I would love for businessmen to come in and talk to my classes about work ethic, possible careers, and how language and learning will affect their ability to earn a living.  I tell them, but I&#8217;m like a mom.  We certainly have credibility, but it helps to hear it from the horse&#8217;s mouth.<br />
   I agree NCLB gives us data, but we have to make sure we react to the data in an appropriate way.  Unfortunately, the biggest impact so far is to have students do a lot of test prep and to focus  everything on the standards that are tested.  We have to make sure that the tests aren&#8217;t the focus of learning.<br />
   Regarding the issue of race which was LaShawn&#8217;s original emphasis:  I&#8217;m also concerned about continued low scores for black students. I hate to sound like an old lady, but I think we can&#8217;t ignore the effect of rap music, the hip-hop culture, and intellectual apologists like Michael Eric Dyson. A young white girl I know who dropped out of school and  had a baby who needed two DNA tests to determine the father talks about how she wants her baby dressed in only brand name clothes so he looks like a pimp or a little &#8220;g&#8221;. This is her goal for her son.  This doesn&#8217;t come from her family, but it does come from the music she hears and the TV she watches.  How much harder would it be for black kids to avoid this when they are also told that it&#8217;s not just cool, it&#8217;s part of being black. It&#8217;s a lie, but when kids listen to the music hours a day, it can seem real..especially at a time when they are trying to get a handle on who they are and their place in the world. What do you think?  Am I over-reacting, or is the hip-hop culture a huge part of the problem?</p>
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		<title>By: The Machine</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Machine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 04:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to the question about how a single mother could possibly home-school, all I can tell you is that I personally know three single moms that did it.  

Sometimes not thinking outside the walls of the box can lead one to make assumptions.  

In these three cases the single moms first started home  businesses.  

Two of them managed to significantly increase their incomes at the same time.  

We have to get past &quot;easy&quot; before anything is possible.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to the question about how a single mother could possibly home-school, all I can tell you is that I personally know three single moms that did it.  </p>
<p>Sometimes not thinking outside the walls of the box can lead one to make assumptions.  </p>
<p>In these three cases the single moms first started home  businesses.  </p>
<p>Two of them managed to significantly increase their incomes at the same time.  </p>
<p>We have to get past &#8220;easy&#8221; before anything is possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura(southernxyl)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura(southernxyl)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 04:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;NCLB has been a godsend in showing us what is going on in our schools.&quot;

Yes.

&quot;A husband and a wife, loving and respecting each other and their children, leading a household is the best atmosphere for children. But given that is not the case for some, right now, now what? What is a solution from that point?&quot;

Oh, yes.  This is why I support public education and I&#039;ll continue to do it if it means I have to hand in my conservative pin.  Public education isn&#039;t necessarily about getting your particular child educated.  People who care have all kinds of options, from public to private to homeschool.  It&#039;s the parents who can&#039;t or won&#039;t take a hand in their kids&#039; education that absolutely require that we maintain the best public school system we can.  Every single American child deserves his or her crack at the American dream, even the illegitimate offspring of the crack-smoking teenager in the projects.  I posted about this &lt;a href=&quot;http://southernxyl.blogspot.com/2005/11/how-about-some-more-controversy.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;NCLB has been a godsend in showing us what is going on in our schools.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes.</p>
<p>&#8220;A husband and a wife, loving and respecting each other and their children, leading a household is the best atmosphere for children. But given that is not the case for some, right now, now what? What is a solution from that point?&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh, yes.  This is why I support public education and I&#8217;ll continue to do it if it means I have to hand in my conservative pin.  Public education isn&#8217;t necessarily about getting your particular child educated.  People who care have all kinds of options, from public to private to homeschool.  It&#8217;s the parents who can&#8217;t or won&#8217;t take a hand in their kids&#8217; education that absolutely require that we maintain the best public school system we can.  Every single American child deserves his or her crack at the American dream, even the illegitimate offspring of the crack-smoking teenager in the projects.  I posted about this <a href="http://southernxyl.blogspot.com/2005/11/how-about-some-more-controversy.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: DarkStar</title>
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		<dc:creator>DarkStar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 03:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Due to not having to report or even clooect any data, we have been able to hide our fraud from the public.&lt;/em&gt;

That is not accurate. In Maryland, there was already testing going on that shows the same thing that the testing required by NCLB shows. It was called the Maryland School Performance Report. It&#039;s now called Maryland Report Card.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Due to not having to report or even clooect any data, we have been able to hide our fraud from the public.</em></p>
<p>That is not accurate. In Maryland, there was already testing going on that shows the same thing that the testing required by NCLB shows. It was called the Maryland School Performance Report. It&#8217;s now called Maryland Report Card.</p>
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		<title>By: Miller Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miller Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a high school chemistry teacher in Prince George&#039;s County, Maryland.  I have some issues with NCLB, but NCLB has been a godsend in showing us what is going on in our schools.

No matter what you think of the goals or solutions of NCLB, you must see the collection and reporting of data on the public school systems as a good thing--more than likely the best thing--about the law.  

We have been allowing students who have no business graduating or even going up to the next grade level to pass on for decades and decades now.  Due to not having to report or even clooect any data, we have been able to hide our fraud from the public.  Well, NCLB has outed us big time!  We have been passing kids who can&#039;t read or write their own names.  And now, we are being shamed for it.

The shame of the data is the real reason so many teachers and the like don&#039;t like NCLB.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a high school chemistry teacher in Prince George&#8217;s County, Maryland.  I have some issues with NCLB, but NCLB has been a godsend in showing us what is going on in our schools.</p>
<p>No matter what you think of the goals or solutions of NCLB, you must see the collection and reporting of data on the public school systems as a good thing&#8211;more than likely the best thing&#8211;about the law.  </p>
<p>We have been allowing students who have no business graduating or even going up to the next grade level to pass on for decades and decades now.  Due to not having to report or even clooect any data, we have been able to hide our fraud from the public.  Well, NCLB has outed us big time!  We have been passing kids who can&#8217;t read or write their own names.  And now, we are being shamed for it.</p>
<p>The shame of the data is the real reason so many teachers and the like don&#8217;t like NCLB.</p>
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		<title>By: DarkStar</title>
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		<dc:creator>DarkStar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 01:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The ABSURDITY I was speaking of, DS, is you thinking I wrote or implied that poor kids couldnâ€™t learn. You are so quick to be contrary that you donâ€™t read carefully enough.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

*SIGH*

Again, YOU missed what I wrote:
&lt;strong&gt;I donâ€™t because of what I hear some young Blacks say about the â€œconversationsâ€ about them. &lt;/strong&gt;

Let&#039;s say I am reading more into what you, in this case, are writing. What about what those young people are hearing? Why are they hearing the same thing I am? (That&#039;s in general)

For the record, I don&#039;t expect, nor want, the troubles to not be discussed and addressed. But I know I&#039;m not the only person seeing this as how I put it.

To wrap it up: let&#039;s say there is a situation where the parent(s) don&#039;t emphasize school. Now what? How do we get that/those parents to care or how do we get the kids to care if they don&#039;t?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em><strong>The ABSURDITY I was speaking of, DS, is you thinking I wrote or implied that poor kids couldnâ€™t learn. You are so quick to be contrary that you donâ€™t read carefully enough.</strong></em></p>
<p>*SIGH*</p>
<p>Again, YOU missed what I wrote:<br />
<strong>I donâ€™t because of what I hear some young Blacks say about the â€œconversationsâ€ about them. </strong></p>
<p>Let&#8217;s say I am reading more into what you, in this case, are writing. What about what those young people are hearing? Why are they hearing the same thing I am? (That&#8217;s in general)</p>
<p>For the record, I don&#8217;t expect, nor want, the troubles to not be discussed and addressed. But I know I&#8217;m not the only person seeing this as how I put it.</p>
<p>To wrap it up: let&#8217;s say there is a situation where the parent(s) don&#8217;t emphasize school. Now what? How do we get that/those parents to care or how do we get the kids to care if they don&#8217;t?</p>
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