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		<title>By: La Shawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>La Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 20:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Skimmed the first few paragraghs earlier today, and didn&#039;t see the part where I&#039;m mentioned. Thanks, Karl!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skimmed the first few paragraghs earlier today, and didn&#8217;t see the part where I&#8217;m mentioned. Thanks, Karl!</p>
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		<title>By: Karl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 20:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AV&#039;s cousin blames Lashawn Barber for the faltering state of the DA&#039;s case.

Lashawn-  please tell me you&#039;ve seen this:
 http://wilmingtonjournal.blackpressusa.com/news/Article/Article.asp?NewsID=70514&amp;sID=4

Maddening as it sometimes proves, I try to spend equal time reading &amp; listening to perspectives from both sides of issues I&#039;m interested in, just to see if I&#039;m turning myopic in my own views - to that end, I was reading this afternoon a lengthy piece from &quot;The Wilmington Journal&quot; built around an interview with AV&#039;s cousin &quot;Jakki&quot;.  Lo and behold I cast my eyes upon this juicy passage - I quote:

&quot;Jakki and the family of the alleged vicitm are well aware of the high stakes, and &#039;are very concerned,&#039; she says.

&#039;These people have money [and] they want to make this go away.  They want to make my cousin look like a harlot, a Jezebel, and they want this to go away.&#039;

Given the tremendous opposition from the major media and the blogs, thanks to defense motions releasing prosecution documents that reportedly call into question the alleged victim&#039;s claims, it seems as if there is almost a united front in the white community that she is not to be bnelieved, though there have been a few Black conservatives like Thomas Sowell, LaShawn Barber and Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson who have joined the crowd.&quot;

So, you see, Lashawn, you can safely leave in the past any thoughts of railing against MSM - after all, according to the Wilmington Journal - it is the &quot;tremendous opposition from the major media and blogs&quot; (translation - you) that is to blame for the state of public opinion on the Duke case today.  Don&#039;t you feel better about MSM already?  

Geez, talk about a tenuous grip on reality ... MSM practically had the Duke students bound for the chain gang within days of the story breaking, now the plainly contradictory facts come out &amp; FINALLY get reported in MSM, and the Wilmington Journal has it that MSM is AGAINST the AV &amp; the black community in general?  it makes my head hurt ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AV&#8217;s cousin blames Lashawn Barber for the faltering state of the DA&#8217;s case.</p>
<p>Lashawn-  please tell me you&#8217;ve seen this:<br />
 <a href="http://wilmingtonjournal.blackpressusa.com/news/Article/Article.asp?NewsID=70514&#038;sID=4" rel="nofollow">http://wilmingtonjournal.blackpressusa.com/news/Article/Article.asp?NewsID=70514&#038;sID=4</a></p>
<p>Maddening as it sometimes proves, I try to spend equal time reading &amp; listening to perspectives from both sides of issues I&#8217;m interested in, just to see if I&#8217;m turning myopic in my own views &#8211; to that end, I was reading this afternoon a lengthy piece from &#8220;The Wilmington Journal&#8221; built around an interview with AV&#8217;s cousin &#8220;Jakki&#8221;.  Lo and behold I cast my eyes upon this juicy passage &#8211; I quote:</p>
<p>&#8220;Jakki and the family of the alleged vicitm are well aware of the high stakes, and &#8216;are very concerned,&#8217; she says.</p>
<p>&#8216;These people have money [and] they want to make this go away.  They want to make my cousin look like a harlot, a Jezebel, and they want this to go away.&#8217;</p>
<p>Given the tremendous opposition from the major media and the blogs, thanks to defense motions releasing prosecution documents that reportedly call into question the alleged victim&#8217;s claims, it seems as if there is almost a united front in the white community that she is not to be bnelieved, though there have been a few Black conservatives like Thomas Sowell, LaShawn Barber and Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson who have joined the crowd.&#8221;</p>
<p>So, you see, Lashawn, you can safely leave in the past any thoughts of railing against MSM &#8211; after all, according to the Wilmington Journal &#8211; it is the &#8220;tremendous opposition from the major media and blogs&#8221; (translation &#8211; you) that is to blame for the state of public opinion on the Duke case today.  Don&#8217;t you feel better about MSM already?  </p>
<p>Geez, talk about a tenuous grip on reality &#8230; MSM practically had the Duke students bound for the chain gang within days of the story breaking, now the plainly contradictory facts come out &amp; FINALLY get reported in MSM, and the Wilmington Journal has it that MSM is AGAINST the AV &amp; the black community in general?  it makes my head hurt &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: TaterCon</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/06/19/duke-rape-case/comment-page-3/#comment-71694</link>
		<dc:creator>TaterCon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Tatercon,
One at State and one at Carolina, which one...?&lt;/i&gt; Kemperman, at 139

Did I say State?  NOT!!  I said &quot;Raleigh&quot; but maybe should have said &quot;Peace College,&quot; the fine, but small, all girls Presbyterian college in Raleigh.... spittin&#039; distance from the legislature, where Liston Ramsey used to scratch favorite chiggers.... ;-) 

As for the other question, there&#039;s only one Carolina.  And we got Roy!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Tatercon,<br />
One at State and one at Carolina, which one&#8230;?</i> Kemperman, at 139</p>
<p>Did I say State?  NOT!!  I said &#8220;Raleigh&#8221; but maybe should have said &#8220;Peace College,&#8221; the fine, but small, all girls Presbyterian college in Raleigh&#8230;. spittin&#8217; distance from the legislature, where Liston Ramsey used to scratch favorite chiggers&#8230;. <img src='http://lashawnbarber.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>As for the other question, there&#8217;s only one Carolina.  And we got Roy!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Karl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Betty (#138), did I catch just a whiff of bombastic  hyperbole in there?</description>
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		<title>By: kemperman</title>
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		<dc:creator>kemperman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tatercon,
One at State and one at Carolina, which one usc, ecu, unc-pembrook (lumbee), unc-g (aka wc), unc-w (beach), unc-a (acid), unc-c  or CH? And, how come CH only let&#039;s girls and gays in now? I&#039;ll trade you tuition bills! Sewanee and Duke for Carolina and State.  I like the idea! And your right, kids ought to be kids!  Ha ha. Kemp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tatercon,<br />
One at State and one at Carolina, which one usc, ecu, unc-pembrook (lumbee), unc-g (aka wc), unc-w (beach), unc-a (acid), unc-c  or CH? And, how come CH only let&#8217;s girls and gays in now? I&#8217;ll trade you tuition bills! Sewanee and Duke for Carolina and State.  I like the idea! And your right, kids ought to be kids!  Ha ha. Kemp</p>
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		<title>By: Betty Friedan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Betty Friedan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s nothing wrong with hiring a stripper. If a guy or guys want to watch a girl or girls dance around naked, they should be allowed to. After all they&#039;re all adults. 

Some women like stripping and do very well financially. To argue that these boys deserve what these vile strippers and Nifong did to them because they like watching naked women dance is ridiculous. 

To avoid strippers from victimizing innocent boys, colleges should be required to provide them. They can add them as a female sports team to balance the numbers of male and femal athletes in compliance with Title IX.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s nothing wrong with hiring a stripper. If a guy or guys want to watch a girl or girls dance around naked, they should be allowed to. After all they&#8217;re all adults. </p>
<p>Some women like stripping and do very well financially. To argue that these boys deserve what these vile strippers and Nifong did to them because they like watching naked women dance is ridiculous. </p>
<p>To avoid strippers from victimizing innocent boys, colleges should be required to provide them. They can add them as a female sports team to balance the numbers of male and femal athletes in compliance with Title IX.</p>
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		<title>By: SPO</title>
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		<dc:creator>SPO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LeslieJ your argument that they should all be punished is sick.  Hiring strippers is a waste of money and generally not such a great idea, but do people deserve to be charged with vile crimes simply because they hired a stripper and had the misfortune to hire one that would simply make up a story?  That&#039;s sick.  Sick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LeslieJ your argument that they should all be punished is sick.  Hiring strippers is a waste of money and generally not such a great idea, but do people deserve to be charged with vile crimes simply because they hired a stripper and had the misfortune to hire one that would simply make up a story?  That&#8217;s sick.  Sick.</p>
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		<title>By: Tate</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/06/19/duke-rape-case/comment-page-3/#comment-71689</link>
		<dc:creator>Tate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: #132... LeslieJ - last I heard it&#039;s not illegal to hire a stripper.  These young men ARE over 18.

And how are the parents supposed to police these young men when they are living outside their homes; outside of their state?  They are grown men, after all...

You need to think about how you would feel if someone in your family was FALSELY accused of first-degree rape, first-degree kidnapping and first-degree assault.  I&#039;m sure you would change your tune.

Your argument is delusional...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: #132&#8230; LeslieJ &#8211; last I heard it&#8217;s not illegal to hire a stripper.  These young men ARE over 18.</p>
<p>And how are the parents supposed to police these young men when they are living outside their homes; outside of their state?  They are grown men, after all&#8230;</p>
<p>You need to think about how you would feel if someone in your family was FALSELY accused of first-degree rape, first-degree kidnapping and first-degree assault.  I&#8217;m sure you would change your tune.</p>
<p>Your argument is delusional&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Karl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 17:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leslie J writes:
&quot;Thereâ€™s been to much focus on him (Nifong) and I think thatâ€™s what he wants.&quot;

I doubt it.  Unlike in many fields of endeavor, for an elected DA the maxim of &quot;any publicity is good publicity&quot; does not typically hold true - unless the bad publicity can be parlayed into profitable post-public employment with some contingent that benefited from or applauded the actions which produced the bad publicity in the first place.  I think Nifong thought he had a chance to get out in front of a parade, and grabbed it, but now its looking more like he&#039;s headed for a tarring and feathering - nationally, anyway, perhaps not locally.  As to whether there has been &quot;too much focus&quot; on him -hardly.  He&#039;s the only person in this entire debacle with full, complete, unreviewable, and absolute discretion to toss the case - his decision not to do so thus far merits abundant scrutiny, review &amp; analysis, and every word of the discussion about him, the case, and the societal implications appearing here &amp; elsewhere.   

On the point of your earlier post - &quot;They should all be punished&quot; - of the two types of conduct you reference with regard to the Duke students, I&#039;ll spot you that underage drinking is illegal (a misdemeanor typically punishable by a fine), but ogling &quot;strippers&quot; generally is not.  The bottom line though is that, without what appears to be an altogether bogus charge of rape, coupled with a deluded district attorney, there is no national news story here, no police &amp; DA intervention, no need to go hire criminal defense counsel (or any other kind of lawyers). This entire fisco seems to be about escalation - the first serious crime was committed when (as I personally have concluded appears likely to have been the case) one or both &quot;performers&quot; decided to &quot;get back&quot; at the allegedly boorish lacrosse players by falsely reporting a crime against them, and not just any crime, a felony crime, and not just any felony crime, but a rape, and not just any rape but a gang rape, and not just any gang rape, but one with the special circumstances of sodomy with a foreign object and kidnapping.  NOW you&#039;ve got something that merits punishment ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leslie J writes:<br />
&#8220;Thereâ€™s been to much focus on him (Nifong) and I think thatâ€™s what he wants.&#8221;</p>
<p>I doubt it.  Unlike in many fields of endeavor, for an elected DA the maxim of &#8220;any publicity is good publicity&#8221; does not typically hold true &#8211; unless the bad publicity can be parlayed into profitable post-public employment with some contingent that benefited from or applauded the actions which produced the bad publicity in the first place.  I think Nifong thought he had a chance to get out in front of a parade, and grabbed it, but now its looking more like he&#8217;s headed for a tarring and feathering &#8211; nationally, anyway, perhaps not locally.  As to whether there has been &#8220;too much focus&#8221; on him -hardly.  He&#8217;s the only person in this entire debacle with full, complete, unreviewable, and absolute discretion to toss the case &#8211; his decision not to do so thus far merits abundant scrutiny, review &amp; analysis, and every word of the discussion about him, the case, and the societal implications appearing here &amp; elsewhere.   </p>
<p>On the point of your earlier post &#8211; &#8220;They should all be punished&#8221; &#8211; of the two types of conduct you reference with regard to the Duke students, I&#8217;ll spot you that underage drinking is illegal (a misdemeanor typically punishable by a fine), but ogling &#8220;strippers&#8221; generally is not.  The bottom line though is that, without what appears to be an altogether bogus charge of rape, coupled with a deluded district attorney, there is no national news story here, no police &amp; DA intervention, no need to go hire criminal defense counsel (or any other kind of lawyers). This entire fisco seems to be about escalation &#8211; the first serious crime was committed when (as I personally have concluded appears likely to have been the case) one or both &#8220;performers&#8221; decided to &#8220;get back&#8221; at the allegedly boorish lacrosse players by falsely reporting a crime against them, and not just any crime, a felony crime, and not just any felony crime, but a rape, and not just any rape but a gang rape, and not just any gang rape, but one with the special circumstances of sodomy with a foreign object and kidnapping.  NOW you&#8217;ve got something that merits punishment &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: TaterCon</title>
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		<dc:creator>TaterCon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 17:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>....&lt;i&gt;but I donâ€™t feel sorry for anyone involved. â€œLives ruinedâ€ should have been considered before the behavior was conducted. Nobody should be exempt, them or her. Underage drinking and strippers? Youâ€™re at college to learn.&lt;/i&gt;
LeslieJ, at 132

Aw, give us a break, Leslie.  Lives shouldn&#039;t be &quot;ruined&quot; &#039;cause a college kid goes out for some illicit imbibing and risque observing .... Last I checked, underage drinking here in NC gets you a mere citation, with court costs and fine, maybe even &quot;community service&quot; if you get an assistant DA who will drop the charge, and no one is going to arrest a boy over 18 for going to see a stripper. 

What these kids have gotten in the aftermath of such a minor level of rowdiness is huge bonds, huge legal costs, their mug shots on Newsweek&#039;s cover, jobs revoked or booted out of school, and a host of other impacts, ALL BECAUSE OF LIES, AGENDAS, ELECTIONS, SLOPPY POLICE WORK AND A HOST OF OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES that even the most vigilant of parents couldn&#039;t have anticipated.

Did you engage in any hijinks in college?  Then don&#039;t throw your stones.

If you didn&#039;t succumb to the temptation of hijinks and partying in college .... jeez, go get a life. 

(BTW, I do have a rising senior in college in Raleigh, and a daughter enrolling as a freshman at Carolina in August.  I expect them to take a break from studying to have some fun, and it&#039;s my fervent hope that they will do so safely.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;.<i>but I donâ€™t feel sorry for anyone involved. â€œLives ruinedâ€ should have been considered before the behavior was conducted. Nobody should be exempt, them or her. Underage drinking and strippers? Youâ€™re at college to learn.</i><br />
LeslieJ, at 132</p>
<p>Aw, give us a break, Leslie.  Lives shouldn&#8217;t be &#8220;ruined&#8221; &#8217;cause a college kid goes out for some illicit imbibing and risque observing &#8230;. Last I checked, underage drinking here in NC gets you a mere citation, with court costs and fine, maybe even &#8220;community service&#8221; if you get an assistant DA who will drop the charge, and no one is going to arrest a boy over 18 for going to see a stripper. </p>
<p>What these kids have gotten in the aftermath of such a minor level of rowdiness is huge bonds, huge legal costs, their mug shots on Newsweek&#8217;s cover, jobs revoked or booted out of school, and a host of other impacts, ALL BECAUSE OF LIES, AGENDAS, ELECTIONS, SLOPPY POLICE WORK AND A HOST OF OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES that even the most vigilant of parents couldn&#8217;t have anticipated.</p>
<p>Did you engage in any hijinks in college?  Then don&#8217;t throw your stones.</p>
<p>If you didn&#8217;t succumb to the temptation of hijinks and partying in college &#8230;. jeez, go get a life. </p>
<p>(BTW, I do have a rising senior in college in Raleigh, and a daughter enrolling as a freshman at Carolina in August.  I expect them to take a break from studying to have some fun, and it&#8217;s my fervent hope that they will do so safely.)</p>
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		<title>By: LeslieJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeslieJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 17:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we were to removed Michael Nifong from the equation, what do we have on this case that could warrant any kind of charges?  (i.e., underage drinking, assault (at best), etc.)

There&#039;s been to much focus on him and I think that&#039;s what he wants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we were to removed Michael Nifong from the equation, what do we have on this case that could warrant any kind of charges?  (i.e., underage drinking, assault (at best), etc.)</p>
<p>There&#8217;s been to much focus on him and I think that&#8217;s what he wants.</p>
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		<title>By: LeslieJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeslieJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 17:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What happened to responsibility for your behavior???

I know everybody has to look at this thing from a legal standpoint now, but I don&#039;t feel sorry for anyone involved.  &quot;Lives ruined&quot; should have been considered before the behavior was conducted.  Nobody should be exempt, them or her.  Underage drinking and strippers?  You&#039;re a college to learn.  This is not Animal House.  Parents turn a blind eye to the activities of their kids and then when something like this happens, they are in shock.  The neighbors probably saw this trainwreck coming down the track.  As for the stripper, need I say more?  They should all be punished.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What happened to responsibility for your behavior???</p>
<p>I know everybody has to look at this thing from a legal standpoint now, but I don&#8217;t feel sorry for anyone involved.  &#8220;Lives ruined&#8221; should have been considered before the behavior was conducted.  Nobody should be exempt, them or her.  Underage drinking and strippers?  You&#8217;re a college to learn.  This is not Animal House.  Parents turn a blind eye to the activities of their kids and then when something like this happens, they are in shock.  The neighbors probably saw this trainwreck coming down the track.  As for the stripper, need I say more?  They should all be punished.</p>
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		<title>By: Karl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 16:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reference post #122 by kemperman (citing a newspaper article) &amp; our earlier discussions about the paucity of incriminating evidence in the case, note that the same article says Nifong anticipates turning over another 300-plus pages of discovery to the defense ...  will this additional discovery finally contain some semblance of a &quot;smoking gun&quot; for Nifong, or at least blunt the strength of all the earlier evidence in favor of the defense, or will this merely provide more fodder for the defense (as if they need more...)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reference post #122 by kemperman (citing a newspaper article) &amp; our earlier discussions about the paucity of incriminating evidence in the case, note that the same article says Nifong anticipates turning over another 300-plus pages of discovery to the defense &#8230;  will this additional discovery finally contain some semblance of a &#8220;smoking gun&#8221; for Nifong, or at least blunt the strength of all the earlier evidence in favor of the defense, or will this merely provide more fodder for the defense (as if they need more&#8230;)?</p>
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		<title>By: Karl</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/06/19/duke-rape-case/comment-page-3/#comment-71675</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 16:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the question of the bond set in this case (and in my eternal pursuit of the devil&#039;s advocacy role), one factor judges typically consider is the financial means of the accused.  The key underlying considerations in setting a  bail bond are to assure the presence of the accused at trial and protect the safety of the community while the accused is free pending trial.  The financial conditions of a bond are therefore relative.  To a minimum wage grocery clerk, personally posting a $5000 bail bond could be a fortune he would have to work several months to earn, equivalent to the value of his car, bank account, and personal belongings all put together - to the CEO of a multinational corporation, the same $5000 could be what it costs him to get his jet off the ground to fly to the Keys.  The general idea is to set financial conditions that will make jumping bond painful for the accused and his/her sureties.  This is not to say that the differential in the case we&#039;re discussing is at all appropriate, because in this case you have a multitude of other factors &amp; considerations to indicate that the Duke lacrosse players are no or minimal flight risks, BUT - their relative wealth compared to the &quot;run-of-the-mill&quot; defendants they system would see is one legitimate factor to balance against all others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the question of the bond set in this case (and in my eternal pursuit of the devil&#8217;s advocacy role), one factor judges typically consider is the financial means of the accused.  The key underlying considerations in setting a  bail bond are to assure the presence of the accused at trial and protect the safety of the community while the accused is free pending trial.  The financial conditions of a bond are therefore relative.  To a minimum wage grocery clerk, personally posting a $5000 bail bond could be a fortune he would have to work several months to earn, equivalent to the value of his car, bank account, and personal belongings all put together &#8211; to the CEO of a multinational corporation, the same $5000 could be what it costs him to get his jet off the ground to fly to the Keys.  The general idea is to set financial conditions that will make jumping bond painful for the accused and his/her sureties.  This is not to say that the differential in the case we&#8217;re discussing is at all appropriate, because in this case you have a multitude of other factors &amp; considerations to indicate that the Duke lacrosse players are no or minimal flight risks, BUT &#8211; their relative wealth compared to the &#8220;run-of-the-mill&#8221; defendants they system would see is one legitimate factor to balance against all others.</p>
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		<title>By: Tate</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/06/19/duke-rape-case/comment-page-3/#comment-71674</link>
		<dc:creator>Tate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 16:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just heard from a friend that the hearing is at 3:00 today... WRAL News, in the local area, will be doing a live coverage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just heard from a friend that the hearing is at 3:00 today&#8230; WRAL News, in the local area, will be doing a live coverage.</p>
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