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		<title>By: Mary Janelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Janelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been following you and read you quite a bit.  I had taken a hiatus due to medical woes.

I am absolutely filled with peace in my heart and the surroundings of it due to your great articles regarding illegal aliens Shawn.

You may not remember me.  My youngest son is in Homeland Security/Immigration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been following you and read you quite a bit.  I had taken a hiatus due to medical woes.</p>
<p>I am absolutely filled with peace in my heart and the surroundings of it due to your great articles regarding illegal aliens Shawn.</p>
<p>You may not remember me.  My youngest son is in Homeland Security/Immigration.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 19:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What kind of garbage is that? Firing ENGLISH speaking people in the US because they don&#039;t speak Spanish? 

Uh, people, this country was founded by English speakers. The people that move here should learn OUR language. Not vice versa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What kind of garbage is that? Firing ENGLISH speaking people in the US because they don&#8217;t speak Spanish? </p>
<p>Uh, people, this country was founded by English speakers. The people that move here should learn OUR language. Not vice versa.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/06/22/dead-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-71725</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 21:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah Scott, I saw that, I wasn&#039;t sure if it was sarcasm or not, so I went that path.  As for the mark of the beast...yeah I dunno.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah Scott, I saw that, I wasn&#8217;t sure if it was sarcasm or not, so I went that path.  As for the mark of the beast&#8230;yeah I dunno.</p>
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		<title>By: ScottG</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/06/22/dead-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-71712</link>
		<dc:creator>ScottG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 21:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shade, John,

See comment five.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shade, John,</p>
<p>See comment five.</p>
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		<title>By: Shade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 21:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, that microchip will stir up fears of &quot;the mark of the beast&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, that microchip will stir up fears of &#8220;the mark of the beast&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: NOYDB</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/06/22/dead-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-71707</link>
		<dc:creator>NOYDB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 20:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Not only has this been asked and answered ad nauseum, but your comment is off-topic. I advise all new readers to spend some time reading older posts and columns before commenting. Forming a judgment about me is fine, but arm yourself with better information. - Admin&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Not only has this been asked and answered ad nauseum, but your comment is off-topic. I advise all new readers to spend some time reading older posts and columns before commenting. Forming a judgment about me is fine, but arm yourself with better information. &#8211; Admin</em></p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/06/22/dead-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-71704</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 20:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know I&#039;m going to be flagged as a traitor to civil liberties, but I am not averse to a microchip implanted say, in your hand.  It could potentially smaller then a grain of rice.  (especially if we put some money into the technology it) and it could be as minimalist or as complex as the law dictates.  It could do anything from work as a bank card to a driver&#039;s license.  It could be used to locate a person, which on the face sounds like a police state, but how many crimes could be solved simply by setting up &quot;zones&quot; say 25 square miles each, and knowing only that a person is in that zone.  It would be another brick on the stack against guilty people, and a way to completely exonerate the innocent in many cases.  &quot;Well look, Bill couldn&#039;t have killed his wife, she was in zone 22352 and he was in 22344.&quot;  Hell, make it an zip code per zone.  Then you wouldn&#039;t even have to number them differently.  How fast would lost people be found?  It&#039;s not like you could easily remove the chip to commit a crime and then reinsert it.  It has the potential to be massively abused, but it could do a lot more good then it is likely to do harm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know I&#8217;m going to be flagged as a traitor to civil liberties, but I am not averse to a microchip implanted say, in your hand.  It could potentially smaller then a grain of rice.  (especially if we put some money into the technology it) and it could be as minimalist or as complex as the law dictates.  It could do anything from work as a bank card to a driver&#8217;s license.  It could be used to locate a person, which on the face sounds like a police state, but how many crimes could be solved simply by setting up &#8220;zones&#8221; say 25 square miles each, and knowing only that a person is in that zone.  It would be another brick on the stack against guilty people, and a way to completely exonerate the innocent in many cases.  &#8220;Well look, Bill couldn&#8217;t have killed his wife, she was in zone 22352 and he was in 22344.&#8221;  Hell, make it an zip code per zone.  Then you wouldn&#8217;t even have to number them differently.  How fast would lost people be found?  It&#8217;s not like you could easily remove the chip to commit a crime and then reinsert it.  It has the potential to be massively abused, but it could do a lot more good then it is likely to do harm.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Mitchell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Mitchell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 19:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I support Bush on many things, but he is just flat wrong on illegal immigration.  Enforcement of illegal immigration rules on employers has gone to ZERO on his watch.

Shame on you George.  You wanna know why your approval ratings can&#039;t get back above 40%.  Bingo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I support Bush on many things, but he is just flat wrong on illegal immigration.  Enforcement of illegal immigration rules on employers has gone to ZERO on his watch.</p>
<p>Shame on you George.  You wanna know why your approval ratings can&#8217;t get back above 40%.  Bingo.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Mitchell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Mitchell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 19:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the things no one seems to be discussing is the &#039;silent victims&#039; of illegal immigration.

In order for an illegal immigrant to work in the USA, they need a &#039;fake&#039; SS#.  That fake card is sold to them by a criminal who is involved in identity theft.

For every illegal alien, there is some poor US citizen out there whose financial life has been totally screwed by this &#039;hardworking&#039; illegal alien.

There are more victims here than just the taxpayers.

This alone is reason enough to never offer these criminals citizenship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the things no one seems to be discussing is the &#8217;silent victims&#8217; of illegal immigration.</p>
<p>In order for an illegal immigrant to work in the USA, they need a &#8216;fake&#8217; SS#.  That fake card is sold to them by a criminal who is involved in identity theft.</p>
<p>For every illegal alien, there is some poor US citizen out there whose financial life has been totally screwed by this &#8216;hardworking&#8217; illegal alien.</p>
<p>There are more victims here than just the taxpayers.</p>
<p>This alone is reason enough to never offer these criminals citizenship.</p>
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		<title>By: Pajamas Media</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/06/22/dead-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-71695</link>
		<dc:creator>Pajamas Media</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;There Are Immigrants, Then There Are Illegal Immigrants&lt;/strong&gt;

 &quot;...President George W. Bush intoned: &#039;Weâ€™re a nation of laws, and we must enforce our laws. Weâ€™re also a nation of immigrants, and we must uphold that tradition, which has strengthened our country in so many ways. These are...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>There Are Immigrants, Then There Are Illegal Immigrants</strong></p>
<p> &#8220;&#8230;President George W. Bush intoned: &#8216;Weâ€™re a nation of laws, and we must enforce our laws. Weâ€™re also a nation of immigrants, and we must uphold that tradition, which has strengthened our country in so many ways. These are&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/06/22/dead-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-71687</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 17:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lashawn there is another prison scandal involving AA guards down in Tallahassee. 

mugshots: http://www.tallahassee.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060622/BREAKINGNEWS/60622012

See: http://forums.tallahassee.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=kr-tallgennews&amp;msg=1524.1&amp;ctx=0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lashawn there is another prison scandal involving AA guards down in Tallahassee. </p>
<p>mugshots: <a href="http://www.tallahassee.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060622/BREAKINGNEWS/60622012" rel="nofollow">http://www.tallahassee.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060622/BREAKINGNEWS/60622012</a></p>
<p>See: <a href="http://forums.tallahassee.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=kr-tallgennews&amp;msg=1524.1&amp;ctx=0" rel="nofollow">http://forums.tallahassee.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=kr-tallgennews&amp;msg=1524.1&amp;ctx=0</a></p>
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		<title>By: ScottG</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/06/22/dead-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-71682</link>
		<dc:creator>ScottG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 16:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heliotrope,

I can at least dump the cookies and I keep my cell off when I&#039;m not using it. I don&#039;t know if that would stop pinpointing my location or not but perhaps it does.

I think the things you bring up are possible, but who&#039;s going to do the work it takes to monitor everyone? I&#039;m not really concerned about it. I don&#039;t do anything wrong, so why would the government or NGO waste time on me?

Well, OK I don&#039;t do that much wrong....

Again, we already have identity cards so I&#039;m not averse to the idea of one, but I prefer it to be issued by each state and it should have only the basic information needed, same as a driver license. Why would anyone need any other info for things such as air travel? If it has my picture why need a thumbprint. Both can be faked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heliotrope,</p>
<p>I can at least dump the cookies and I keep my cell off when I&#8217;m not using it. I don&#8217;t know if that would stop pinpointing my location or not but perhaps it does.</p>
<p>I think the things you bring up are possible, but who&#8217;s going to do the work it takes to monitor everyone? I&#8217;m not really concerned about it. I don&#8217;t do anything wrong, so why would the government or NGO waste time on me?</p>
<p>Well, OK I don&#8217;t do that much wrong&#8230;.</p>
<p>Again, we already have identity cards so I&#8217;m not averse to the idea of one, but I prefer it to be issued by each state and it should have only the basic information needed, same as a driver license. Why would anyone need any other info for things such as air travel? If it has my picture why need a thumbprint. Both can be faked.</p>
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		<title>By: ElCee</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/06/22/dead-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-71680</link>
		<dc:creator>ElCee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 16:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>National ID card? Hey, let&#039;s just skip all that and go for a global identity card. And the best way I can think of to make it fraud proof is to implant it, say on your forehead or your hand. Instead of using your vulnerable VISA, you could just wave your hand at the RFID reader. In fact, maybe you shouldn&#039;t be able to buy or sell without it! Wow, would that cut down on fraud and ID theft and all kinds of illegal behavior. This is such a good idea, I wonder why nobody has thought of it before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>National ID card? Hey, let&#8217;s just skip all that and go for a global identity card. And the best way I can think of to make it fraud proof is to implant it, say on your forehead or your hand. Instead of using your vulnerable VISA, you could just wave your hand at the RFID reader. In fact, maybe you shouldn&#8217;t be able to buy or sell without it! Wow, would that cut down on fraud and ID theft and all kinds of illegal behavior. This is such a good idea, I wonder why nobody has thought of it before.</p>
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		<title>By: Heliotrope</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/06/22/dead-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-71673</link>
		<dc:creator>Heliotrope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 15:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#3 ScottG raises some compelling points about the national identity card. But he forgets to mention that your computer is loaded with cookies which feed huge data banks in the private sector. Your cell phone calls are easily monitored by anyone who cares to snoop. Soon, you will be carrying a GPS cell phone and we will know your whereabouts within a yard. Wi-Fi is like networking with everyone in the zone.

A little paranoia is healthy. But you talk on your cordless phone or cell phone and use your GPS and enjoy Wi-Fi because you choose to believe that every tree does not really have a boogie man hiding behind it.

A national identity card need not be a Nazi tattoo on the wrist. (Certainly shared information laws would have to be updated.) It could cut through the mess of air travel. It could be a great boon to solving the growing crisis in identity theft.

I give up my thumbprint a bazillion times a day by my simple actions. I can even log on with it. Where is the loss of freedom in its being part of my identity card? 

The biggest problem I see would be that when you lose the card, you will end up sitting in a DMV type place for endless hours while the bureaucrats look at wedding pictures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#3 ScottG raises some compelling points about the national identity card. But he forgets to mention that your computer is loaded with cookies which feed huge data banks in the private sector. Your cell phone calls are easily monitored by anyone who cares to snoop. Soon, you will be carrying a GPS cell phone and we will know your whereabouts within a yard. Wi-Fi is like networking with everyone in the zone.</p>
<p>A little paranoia is healthy. But you talk on your cordless phone or cell phone and use your GPS and enjoy Wi-Fi because you choose to believe that every tree does not really have a boogie man hiding behind it.</p>
<p>A national identity card need not be a Nazi tattoo on the wrist. (Certainly shared information laws would have to be updated.) It could cut through the mess of air travel. It could be a great boon to solving the growing crisis in identity theft.</p>
<p>I give up my thumbprint a bazillion times a day by my simple actions. I can even log on with it. Where is the loss of freedom in its being part of my identity card? </p>
<p>The biggest problem I see would be that when you lose the card, you will end up sitting in a DMV type place for endless hours while the bureaucrats look at wedding pictures.</p>
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		<title>By: ScottG</title>
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		<dc:creator>ScottG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 14:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fraud proof ID card? Do we really need &quot;papers please?&quot; I wondered what we would use and who would issue? I think if someone wanted to go that route, it should be a state issued ID. Show birth cert or naturalization papers and get your card. But that would hardly be tamper proof. How many fake IDs are there already?

Do you really want to force free American citizens to provide a body part sample or submit to retina or other scans to prove their identity? If we start there, where do we stop? Make it implanted into the body? Link the card to our bank accounts? Provide tracking so the government or some NGO can pinpoint our location - for our own safety of course - I believe I&#039;ll pass on that.

We have enough IDs as it is. What&#039;s to stop the government from adding other information to your file? Do you own a gun? Every time you get pulled over will it be at gunpoint, just because you could be carrying a gun? Are you in default on a loan? Oh, come with us down to the station.... You&#039;re a churchgoer? Hmm, let&#039;s search your premises for bigoted hate literature, that old family Bible.

Forget it. I&#039;d rather leave things as they are. Stop illegals at the border, and deport those apprehended. I&#039;d prefer spending money on that than some ID that could be used for all sorts of unintended uses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fraud proof ID card? Do we really need &#8220;papers please?&#8221; I wondered what we would use and who would issue? I think if someone wanted to go that route, it should be a state issued ID. Show birth cert or naturalization papers and get your card. But that would hardly be tamper proof. How many fake IDs are there already?</p>
<p>Do you really want to force free American citizens to provide a body part sample or submit to retina or other scans to prove their identity? If we start there, where do we stop? Make it implanted into the body? Link the card to our bank accounts? Provide tracking so the government or some NGO can pinpoint our location &#8211; for our own safety of course &#8211; I believe I&#8217;ll pass on that.</p>
<p>We have enough IDs as it is. What&#8217;s to stop the government from adding other information to your file? Do you own a gun? Every time you get pulled over will it be at gunpoint, just because you could be carrying a gun? Are you in default on a loan? Oh, come with us down to the station&#8230;. You&#8217;re a churchgoer? Hmm, let&#8217;s search your premises for bigoted hate literature, that old family Bible.</p>
<p>Forget it. I&#8217;d rather leave things as they are. Stop illegals at the border, and deport those apprehended. I&#8217;d prefer spending money on that than some ID that could be used for all sorts of unintended uses.</p>
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