#37 – Belle, I could care less about you being offended as a white woman because I preface my remarks with me being a black woman. I speak from my vantage point, you stick to speaking from yours. Get over it and YOURSELF.

The comments have been interesting and it also proves that some of you don’t read. I didn’t say that I know what happened, I simply stated my thoughts and what happened to be OPINION. Some of you guys need to go to law school because the commentary was compelling.

But in the end all we all are doing is speculating.

Which is why everyone involved should have been quiet.

I’ll admit Crystal is pretty ugly

I certainly hope that you are not refering to anyone’s physical features.

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#64 – Belle – Thanks. My thought, exactly, the audition is over. [But wait, she didn’t want to give out her name – only say she’s appearing in a movie with D.L. Hughley. I did a quick Google Search – couldn’t find it].

And now Jakki wants us to think that her cousin was offered AND turned down $2,000,000. by Duke Alumni. Yeah, okay. What was that, $20,000. first, then $200.00 and now $2,000,000.? Rather like she was originally raped by 20 men, then 1, then 3? Or, perhaps this is what her “civil attorney,” Gary E. Willie, quoted this as an amount the he might able to get the “AV” if she files a [civil] suit.

A bit off topic – but WHAT could Kim Roberts possibly stand to gain in a civil suit? Other than further humiliating herself and the three accused young men. Fox News: “Mark Simeon — the attorney for Kim Roberts, the “2nd stripper” at the alleged rape scene — wants a civil suit.”

Did anyone hear what it was that was on the “AV’s” cell phone that was going to be offered for evidence?

Since the “AV” only wants to see justice served there will be no way the DA will be able to “save face” in this case by saying that the “AV” didn’t want to testify. So, although I’m certainly NOT advocating what the DA did – bring this case forward for political reasons if that is how this turns out – but if he didn’t, and “truly” thought there was enough evidence, blah, blah, blah then it will be the lives of five men ruined – the three defendants, the coach that “quit,” and the DA who is going to have to find another state to practice in after this ignominy is finally said and done.

Speculation: The criminal case ends up going nowhere. Then the “AV” and Kim file civil suits. They’ll file against the players, individually, and Duke. Duke is where they will look for the “deep pockets.” The “rape” took place on Duke Campus property, did it not? Thus, becoming a “responsible party.”

The civil case certainly could well end up being much, much better drama, however. Every Tom, Dick, Harry and John that the “AV” ever had sex with – or performed for – will be called to testify, she will be deposed by the attorneys and “grilled” to the mat and good grief, let her “slip up on a detail,” between her deposition testimony and any trial testimony. And, Kim, too. She will have to face the same.

Nope, I don’t buy it. That the “AV” was offered $$$ to make this case go away. Not when she’s considering the possibility of a civil suit…

Read specifically the quote I responded to in the very first post of this thread and then tell me why I was included in your #23 post. I have NEVER given an opinion about what happened that night.

If she did decide she wanted to drop her story; or if she got religion and decided after seeing all the grief her false accusation has caused that she wanted to just recant–would she be able to get to a microphone?

This woman doesnt see mto understand that if she is lying she has not only destroyed 46 lives, she has destroyed the lives of many black women who in the future may be raped or assaulted or harassed for racial reasons but might not be believed as easily after this fiasco.

And thats what this is; a fiasco. Because we all know if this wasnt so publicized and this is all the evidence Nifong had, this wouldnt even make it to trial.

Oh, please! As if we don’t have enough BS “Blue Law” crimes tying up law enforcement and bleeding the taxpayer as the busybodies of the Nanny State seek to impose their morality – you want to criminalize 65-75 million men for having been at a batchelor’s party or ever being at a club where strippers are part of the activities? Give them 100 hours for the “new crime” of watching a stripper and 100 hours of community service? And all the women who confess to being at a Chippindales, including Lynne Cheney and Condi Rice? Next, James, I’m sure you can go after gays and criminalize them for watching gay go-go dancers and any other activities deemed “purient” by a blemishless soul such as yourself.

While you’re at it why not make Playboy and other adult media illegal, ban drinking again, and craft laws forcing women to adapt modest attire. Please consult with the Saudi Religious police for advice.
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Read the SI article. It was a little too sympathetic to the Accuser at times, given what most of us know about her activities – “Navy Vet, Honor student, devoted mother of two” – but maybe they tossed some bon-bons her way for balance. The part with Coach Pressler killed me. What a needless, undeserved tragedy(or “royal screwing” in lieu of “tragedy”) that guy was smacked with. I didn’t know that he was given a huge attaboy! 3-year contract less than a year earlier to enormous praise by the guy who less than a year later said resign or be fired, and had acted promptly on any complaint brought to his attention – and that in 12 years he had a 100% graduation rate at a super tough school, and built a sports program from nothing to national contender.

And got thrown under the bus nevertheless.

Hope he has a good lawyer – because his Duke loyalty aside – he was treated like shit by Brodhead, and if he doesn’t get job offers, it’s time to redeem his trashed reputation by extracting beaucoup Duke bucks after sweating Duke Administrators. I read some of Broadheads work in his Yale years, and he comes across as ethical and very insightful. But I would love to be able to ask him if the price for being headed for the top at Yale and then Duke necessitated he become amoral and embrace vicious tactics of destroying others. Pressler and the Lacrosse players aren’t the only ones this guy threw to the wolves. He helped get rid of a professor at Yale innocent of murder as a PR solution, and is rumored to have destroyed the career paths of other Yalies who did not share his liberal politics or blocked his rise.
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Tiffany, I hope you can understand the absolute inanity of your position. “They may not have done the crimes they are accused of, but surely they must have done something else wrong, so le’;s have a trial and see what comes from such a fishing expedition.”

Right. So I accuse you of child molestation despite me living nowhere near Houston – a local prosecutor thinks a “female child molester” would be an excellent campaign prop – and next thing you know you’re indicted by his Grand Jury puppets. You say Ford is a false accuser with no evidence. Then you hear about “Believe the Children, Always!!!” advocates that act like you in the Duke case – that maybe you didn’t do the molestation but surely you must have done something bad so lets put you on trial for a jury to decide if you spend most of the rest of your life behind bars – just to see what the “bad things” Tiffany could have done – really are? is???

I mean, come on Tiffany. If you endorse arresting then trying people on no evidence – because they must have done something “bad”. Then why shouldn’t you be arrested and tried without probable cause if certain people around you or even a stranger you encounter believe you must have some skeletons in your closet?

I would count on the AV’s cousin or that newspaper to do any fact checking or even to know how to do fact checking, but IF the AV is making claims that someone offered her $2 million, this should be another interesting story. Perhaps three white men appeared in a bathroom and had a suitcase of hundred dollar bills. Perhaps she imagined it.

The racist 1915 movie Birth of a Nation movie, where the Klan saved the nation, had whites in black face makeup playing black rapists. This was the most seen movie up to that time. In the early 1900s, there was low-brow racist comedy where white comedians dressed up as blacks and acted as buffoons and criminals. I would guess that if some people saw whites dress up as blacks and rape white women in film and onstage, it’s not too far to assume that whites do it in real life, especially if one is only half paying attention in (black) history class. It was only a movie.

Last week, the Defense Lawyers released the entire 1300 pages of evidence to MSNBC. MSNBC reviewed the material and declared that the case is utter rubbish.

Plus, Nifong said he gave “all” his evidence to the defense last time, yet now he has 500 pages more? I guess his “all” is different than our “all”.

I have to admit. Nifong does get my “Annual Giant B***s Award”.

To look at this utterly rediculous, obviously BS case and to say publicly that you see NOTHING in the evidence to make you think this woman wasn’t raped and these boys are just evil hooligans takes some serious manhood.

And who are the true racists here? When black activists proclaim that despite ALL the evidence to the contrary that this woman was still raped JUST because she is black and the boys are white is the ultimate in racism.

I just luv you, Tatercon! Your posts are too funny… I totally share your sentiments…

P.S. Keep up the great postings!