Racialist Double Standards

La Shawn,

Excellent post! As always, you and I agree 100% on this topic. I wish that all the people of this great country could share your view on this. Life would instantly improve for all of us.

This double-standard goes on because old white politicians and media talking heads have testosterone deficiencies and will not fight back. I grew up with “lower/middle class” diversity and one thing was an absolute certainty: call a black dude a N and you would fight then and there. Whites on the other hand would discuss the insult if directed towards our “cracker asses” (Eddie Murphy and Richard Pryor did countless bits about uptight, timid white folks).

This is changing however with younger whites who grew up with diversity and hip hop culture, and the Internet discusses what others are afraid to.

Good post, LaShawn.

LB

Right On! Glad someone is calling out that NOI junk. I don’t even think things like the “Black Pledge” look anything other than horrific! (And somewhat embarrassing)

The flaw with this is the interchanging of the terms black and white. You have plenty of white ethnicities who express their pride. Italians, Polish, Irish, Russian, German, Jewish, Scottish, etc. These groups have caucuses, beauty pageants, holidays, months dedicated to their heritage, etc. The term “black” as used in the U.S. is synonymous with the term “African American” and almost always denotes the specific ethnicity of American blacks, most of whom are descendants of American slaves. It is not geared toward Hispanics who are clearly of African descent nor even Africans. African American, Irish American, Italian American, etc. are similar terms denoting similar things.

And lets look at another double standard. People who celebrate “black pride” are people of African descent in America. Thus, a person who is half black/half white would be included. A person who is 20% black would be included. Now, since 90% of black Americans have European blood in them, would white nationalists welcome this 90% to the pride celebrations. None that I have observed will since “purity” is important to them whereas “purity” is not a priority for “black pride”.

Consider this. Whites are this nation’s power. They are the majority in numbers and are overwhelmingly in control of everything from economics to military. Every white nationalist organization that I know of expresses more than pride in being white. They express the desire for forced separation. So while myself, La Shawn, and others may not care if they want us to leave, if their ideas become mainstream, we will have no choice and if Aryan Resistance or World Church of The Creator get their way, all of us will be dropped off on a totally foreign and hostile continent; a situation that would mean struggle and suffering for us and our families. They won’t consider whether we are conservative or liberal, successful or poor. ALL of us.

If white pride organizations did not insult, threaten or express superiority over other people to such an enormous extent and didn’t consider Hitler a hero, they would not be looked upon so badly.

Whites haven’t always dominated, historically.

The Irish were repeatedly bashed, and they’re white.

Slavs, Pollacks, Spics, WOPs/Dago……are these the “Whites” that everybody thinks have been so privileged throughout history?

The Anglo-Saxons/Aryans were a very very very small part of the White race.

For the non-Anglo Whites, life was not always a bowl of cherries. If you had a Celtic sounding last name, and/or your grandparents spoke with a brogue….you were shunned.

Even today, you could be “White”; but, if your ancestry was from Sicily and/or your last name ends in a vowel, everybody thinks you’ve got Mob connections.

Just having white skin isn’t always the luxury everyone thinks.

La Shawn, self-segregation by race has a couple of facets, as I see it.

If it is a natural thing, based upon where one lives, the church of choice, extended family bonds, cultural likes and choices, etc. it seems a perfectly logical and benign thing to do to pick friends with whom you are comfortable. I see that as similar to women having their own circle of women friends or men having male golf or basketball buddies. It’s a simple personal choice without rancor.

Where I see a problem is self-segregation done based upon distrust or dislike of another race. In that case, while it’s disturbing, it’s also not anything we can or should try to remedy by edict or law. Hearts and minds, as they say.

And I do heartily agree that colorblind justice is primary. Everything else follows.

Also, the biggest racists I have ever met in my life have been white liberals. They talk the talk but NEVER walk the walk. I Take a hard line stance on many things because I have experience. I am not exactly fond of associating with groups of blacks or Puerto Ricans because I grew up in a crack ghetto in the 80s as the only white kid in the black. I was picked on, beaten down, ganged up on and insulted for the color of my skin. All the while being calld “the man” I am the one doing the oppressing, a 10 year old boy being tortured by angry blacks and latinos.

So that colored my experiences you could say. When I turned around 16 my family moved from the ghetto to the white burbs. The quality of people of course were better, not many crack heads. But I learned quickly that these people played “the game” in Chruch in front of everyone else but were secretly the biggest racists around. They talked about Black rights and all this, but you’d never see them invite any blacks over, and they would freak out if thier daughter brought home a black guy as her boyfriend. They wanted gay marriage, but they disowned thier gay family members.

This is what I am talking about. These people are the true racists, they use pat on the head programs to tout thier moral highground superiority to those of us who think Slave Reperations are a joke, but they dont think blacks are intelligent enough to handle themselves, they dont see them as people. They view them more as children, as little kiddies who need to be controlled, not respected.

As for me? I am routinely called a bigot, homophobes and a racist. But I do things that those white liberals dont do, I have dated and fallen in love with black girls. I grew up with them I opend my home to them. I see them as people. My brother is gay, I hate this. I cried for an hour when I found out and he told me and I was alone because I just kept remembering him when he was a little kid and I used ot take him fishing and I just want whats best for him, but I still love him. He’s my brother. I would never disown him. I see him as a person. I disagree with his lifestyle, but I would never shun him.

Thats the difference.

I still dont believe in gay marriage, slave reperations or affrimitive action though. I think they are bad for the country and demeaning to the people who theyre supposed to help.

So who is the TRUE homophobe and racist?

Sorry – I clicked on paste twice in my previous comment. Why do I always make typos then commenting on other groups’ intelligence?

I think I fixed it. – Admin

Here’s why I think double standards will always exist. Blacks and other minorities are held to different standards because people believe they are less intelligent and can’t help themselves. For the most part, their racialist antics are clownish and don’t pose a threat. Agree or disagree?

The problem with this is that it implies that very conservative whites don’t think it is clownish and do think that it poses a threat since very conservative whites do react angrily to these double standards. This would tend to imply that conservative whites are less intelligent than more liberal whites since the less intelligent would be more likely to be offended by the other less intelligent.

I think that Billy hits it on the nail. White liberals desire to take the moral high ground which is often a ploy. White liberals are half of the white population, thus are a major influence and I think that they encourage this double standard so they can be viewed as the good guys who only have unselfish intentions when they involve themselves in the lives of others.

When one speaks of ‘advantaged groups’ it always seems to imply that their advantage was simply handed to them. As if they did nothing to gain that advantage.

Nothing could be farther from the truth.

Whites did not simply rise to the top, they built a civilization and behavioural model that put them there. They fought themselves, and others to get where they are.

Others also fought for ’supremacy’. They lost. In order to become better they have to create a better structure, a better civilization, and the means to spread it.

There exists in the white population today an internalization of the idea that ‘advantage’ was either handed them or that it was unfairly won. Because of this, out of all populations, the white population often works AGAIST its own best interests, AGAIST the civilization that has placed them at their current pinnacle.

The white liberals who are ‘racist’ in their thoughts and attitudes are not unaware of it, and do their best to promote laws and regulations that will force them to do the things their own natures recoil from. In this way they can maintain their lifestyles while spouting the rhetoric that assuages their guilt.

Lashawn -

Why do black liberals hate you? Because their politics and beliefs are based on an ideology that is hate based thus adding crutches to dependent lifestyles and unaccountability to the basic God-centered foundation of right and wrong.

Black liberal politics are a 21st century version of plantation policies. As long as it exists, blacks in this nation will never rise above their racist hatred towards whites. This feeds into a cycle of excuses, self-hatred, and a decline of our moral standards.

As a fellow black in this country, my heart aches at the “race pimping” that has gone on by our so-called leaders over the past 35 years. It’s truly sad.

So, keep telling it like it is sistah! Not all of us have bowed to the overseer’s whip and have chosen to escape the plantation and purchase our own damn land and build. (Black liberals are like overseers).

shan: “Hispanic and black “racialists” have not nearly that track record of barbarism. They simply bluster words.” Are you sure about that? The “reconquista movement” brings to mind the “Conquistadors” who, in the name of Spain and the Holy Catholic church invaded Mexico/South America, beheaded those natives who would not “convert” (Sound familiar, Muslims?)-and in fact are the very reason Mexicans are Latinos (Latin) instead of indians. Reconquistas are the children of the ‘conquested’. Sorry, La Shawn-I had to make up a new word.

If someone frames their views of others in terms of race they are de-emphasizing other things such as personal character, intelligence, productivity, etc. that (in my view) are far more important.

Brilliant as usual. Liberals hate you because you expose ‘Black pride’ for what it really is: a false sense of ’self esteem’ based on one’s ‘knowledge of self’ and how well one can verbally whip those around you (namely whites) with this ‘knowledge’.

I speak from experience. I was fed the ‘Black pride’ garbage in college and all it did was make me a racist/segregationist/America hater. Thank God I no longer subscribe to the ‘Black pride’ propaganda and I’m proud to be an American.

To me, real pride has no color/ethnicity, but is a result of concrete, measurable accomplishments in life.

When I learned the truth about how blessed I was to be an American, I threw off the shackles of the ‘Black pride’ race hustlers. This is the liberals’ greatest fear: you, me and millions of others putting them out of a job.

Great thoughts, La Shawn. Good stuff from Billy and sg, too.

The intelligence of the people who visit La Shawns site never ceases to amaze me. Put some of it to work. Someone in this group figure out a way to get La Shawn’s name at the top of the list of the media’s “Break Glass In Case We Need A Black Viewpoint” list.
Although I can stomach very little main-stream news coverage, I’d happily watch to see the face of some lib while La Shawn answered the question of, “…and how does the “black” community feel about this?”
Can’t you imagine?? People would be coughing up their dinner.

“When I learned the truth about how blessed I was to be an American, I threw off the shackles of the ‘Black pride’ race hustlers.”

Cedjan,

It would be interesting to hear how you did that. Was it from being in the military? Moving to a different neighborhood? Real life after college? Making a friend unexpectedly?

It’s always interesting to hear how someone throws off long cherished beliefs for new ones.

Always love when you tell the truth La Shawn

What would really get the detractors…well…detracted…

Write a book called….let’s see… Colorless

Sorry the wikipedia link above is broken.

This is better.

http://makeashorterlink.com/?K2F32295D

Whilt I agree with Lashawn that not discussing ideas is dangerous, I simply cannot give these girl’s parents a pass on raising them on a hateful, supremacist ideology. I’d say the same about a black nationalist, an islamic nationalist, etc. Does that make me a ‘liberal’? (from an American point of view, I’m interested as I’m from Britain) – to distrust the premise of racial supremacy ?

“Blacks and other minorities are held to different standards because people believe they are less intelligent and can’t help themselves.”

Not by me they’re not. I don’t care what colour an idiot is. All racists are grey, grey, grey

To put it succinctly, it was wrong to treat people differently because of their skin in the past so lets make it right by doing a second wrong and treating people differently because of their skin in the present.

Equal protection under the law isn’t just a good idea, its the constitution.

“Say, you’re not still upset about that little incident with the tea, are you? ”

Only if you spilled it on me personally

I’m neither nationalist or patriotic, so my arguments are usually of a more personal nature. This is hard for nationalists to understand.

Example:

If someone claims (as do the girl-’act’ Prussian Blue) that Jew-killing Nazis were really ‘men of peace’, then I have an issue with Prussian Blue, not America, from where they come.

If Prussian Blue claim to be liberals, and still spew the same stuff…then my argument isn’t with ‘liberals’ it’s with Prussian Blue.

If Ann Coulter claims that I am a tea-sipping Godless ape…then my argument wouldn’t be with Americans, or Conservatives, or pseudo-Christians…it would be with…well you get the idea now

The smallest people hide behind the biggest lies.

“If that’s the extent of these girl’s pride, I applaud them, there’s rarely any reason not to be proud of your heritage”

1. That isn’t the extent of these girl’s ‘pride’. They were home schooled in Hitler, and fuel their boat with Holocaust denyers, virulent anti-semites, racial supremacists, neo-Nazis.

“Prussian Blue maintains a Web site which sells their CDs and music videos, as well as white supremacist and Holocaust denial literature.”

Their website has direct links to holocaust denial literature.

I’m for free speech. And for free expression. And I hope someone smacks these girl’s parents real hard for the abuse they visited upon their girls.

A poisoned mind is forever. I just read ‘Night’ by Elie Wiesel. It makes a grown man cry tears of rage, sadness and horror. And so it should. And now, today I read here that these two little girls are making money in the ‘pop’ world from millions of slaughtered innocents, and the DIRECT ideology that spawned the slaughter.

So no, they deserve no applause. And their parents deserve the full shame of both the here and now, and the hereafter.

I am a white woman whose child entered her home through the gift of adoption. My daughter is of mixed race. I am awaiting the arrival of two children from Haiti. I am alway intrigued by the discussion on race on this sight. I hope to gain insight that will help me guide my children to be adults who possess high self esteem and a spiritual foundation on which they will build a life of honesty, kindness, good humor, curiosity, confidence, the joy of learning, and a sense of accomplishment and independence.

I wanted to reply to jack who wrote:

[When one speaks of ‘advantaged groups’ it always seems to imply that their advantage was simply handed to them. As if they did nothing to gain that advantage. Nothing could be farther from the truth.]

This is simply an untrue statement. There do, in fact, exist priveleges that I have enjoyed simply as a birthright. Prior to parenting a non-white child I didn’t recognize any of these priveleges.

I can walk in any store in any town and purchase books with illustrations of characters that look just like me. I can go to the cosmetic section of the same store and select from a vast array of hygiene products designed for my skin type and color. I have leaders and mentors in my community that look like me. I turn on the TV or peruse the magazine counters and see “beauty” exemplified by someone that looks just like me. I can make an appointment at the barbar shop or salon and expect that someone working their will have been trained in how to cut and style my hair.

When I went to public school and I had difficulty in a subject, my teacher assumed that I could do the work and assisted me. I was never identified as needing special education. I was not placed in a class in which the educational expectations were lowered to meet my “special needs.”

When I misbehaved, my parents were called and I was given a consequence, but I was not labeled as having a behavior disorder or problem. My behavior did not lead to my being segregated into a class for children with emotional and behavioral disorders (EBD). In our small town where only 1% of the population is black, 75% of the students in this EBD class were black. (I am homeschooling now).

The fact is that most white Americans are, in fact, “colorblind” in that we do not recognize our own prejudices. Nor do we realize that we have benefited from the priveleges that are ours by virtue of our skin color.

I just read the Michelle Malkin piece about Autum. All I can say is that it is a waste of a clearly exceptional young woman to point her so directly at hate. I have no problem with the issue that she’s been single mindedly chasing knowledge since she was learing to read, and while that, in my experience, tends to lead children to have trouble socializing, I can’t abide that at such a young age she is taught to hate. There is a reason children that age in schools are taught very general concepts of right and wrong. Sharing, hitting, bad words, because children at this age are not able to decide reasonably what they believe beyond what their parents tell them, and so they become their parents puppets until they begin to think for themselves. To me, teaching a child to hate so young is no better then making your child fight for his food. You are instilling a destructive and dangerous behavior before the child knows better. But I will say this, I would love to see what she says when the “white devils” offer her an affirmative action scholarship to a prestigious college, because if she says no, then she’s doing exactly what we want, admitting that she’s no worse then anyone and not in need of help, if she accepts, then she’s betraying every word of her superiority. As for saying that blacks should be back in africa, I’m pretty sure there are some groups that would be willing to pay for a few thousand plane tickets.

“The intelligence of the people who visit La Shawns site never ceases to amaze me. Put some of it to work. Someone in this group figure out a way to get La Shawn’s name at the top of the list of the media’s “Break Glass In Case We Need A Black Viewpoint” list.”

For better or worse, most news shows choose based on entertainment value of a controversy instead of intelligence or a well-reasoned academic argument.

But if one does not mind making provocative statements (they think blacks are dumb), one might have a lot of success as a Michael Savage, Ann Coulter type.

It at least gets people to think about the subject.

Some of the African American Studies arguments are so weak (don’t attack us) that it’s an easy argument to win.

It also helps on TV if one looks good – not a sexist comment, just an observation of the female news hosts.

What do I think? I think Prussian Blue and Autum Ashante are spewing hatred at the hands of their parents. Its all around wrong. I was into the black pride thing, but I never saw myself as better than anyone else. If anything it helped me to see that I was not a second class citizen. If things did not go right in my life, it was not because I was black.

I find the assumption that European (read white & Christian) colonialism and exploitation are somehow more evil than non white colonialism and exploitation (they use different terms for it) one of the most ridiculous premises and really exposes the innate racism of the person who espouses it. You give us far more credit than we deserve.

I have travelled extensively and have enjoyed reading history all my life and quite frankly cannot find one race culture or religion which could really look its self in the mirror if it really read its own history.

The Aztecs sacrificed 20,000 captives after one campaign, Genghis Khan was appallingly ferocious and used massacre as a routine weapon of conquest. The Moors (Muslims), invaded Visigoth Spain, they weren’t invited. The Moguls invasion of India over three centuries killed and enslaved millions. Will Durrant called it one of the bloodiest chapters in history, the word Hindu Kush means Hindu slaughter. The Ottomans raped and pillaged all the way to the gates of Vienna in 1683. They regularly enslaved their Christian subjects kidnapping the children and turning them into Janissaries. The imposition of the tax Non-Muslims had to pay to their Muslim rulers often led to extreme hardship which led to rebellions which were brutally repressed even in the so called Camelot of Islam, Moorish Spain. There was nothing peaceful and tolerant if you refused to pay it. I put this tax on the level of a religious protection racket. The complicity of Arabs and African Kings in slavery is undeniable. I could go on and on.

Irrespective of how many of the above civilisations came about their contributions to science, medicine, the arts and humanity in general cannot be denied.

Lets move forward to the present. Look at the genocide in Darfur by Arab Muslims, the occupation and destruction of Tibet by the Chinese, the slow genocide of the peoples of West Papua by Indonesians. Again I could go on and on

I think I speak for most white people when I say if they invented a time machine I would be the first person to stand on that African, Australian, South American (you name it) shore and tell those first Europeans where to get off. Unfortunately nobody has invented one. Quite frankly the number of real racists I have met throughout my life I could count on one hand and I can assure you they were not all white. I certainly do not think I am superior to anybody because I am white.

Do not play the victim supremacist’s game. You do not have to join the kkk (small initials intended). Do not bow your head with shame when some one mentions something that happened before you born. Read history and have an answer for your children when a show comes on television, which (as usual) only shows white racism and colonialism. Make sure your children know that whites are not the only people to act like that and that those sort of incidences have happened throughout history. Make sure they know that our accomplishments out weight our faults like everybody else throughout the history of civilisation.

Secondly when the victim supremacists really get you down tell to take a trip to countries which despise Western/European culture. Ask them to find out the price of 6 rocks and a packet of gravel in Iran for a stoning. See how much they enjoy a beheading or if it is are a woman ask them how much they enjoy driving and voting in Saudi Arabia. Not the height civilisation as far as I am concerned. While they are in the vicinity tell them to pick up a slave in Niger.

Sorry Lashawn very long post (quite a rant really).

Julie, I had to respond, and, no rudeness intended, I have to say that I find your points almost laughable.

As the father of three children, two of whom are not white( one white, one mixed, one black), I can understand the interracial difficulties, but I think you go too far.

I can walk into any store and purchase books, cosmetics and hygiene products for all members of my family, with imagery and specific ingredients designed for their skin types. Well, to be fair, not ANY store. Some don’t sell all those things because they’re specialized. But ANY cosmetics store will cater to most every race–definately black and white. Every bookstore has books with heroes/villain/points of interest of pretty much ALL racial components. And department stores, like Target and Wal-Mart have a product base that caters to all their customers. Of whatever race.

You can insist that you live somewhere that this is not true, but I can’t say I’ll believe it. Living in Vermont, perhaps the whitest state in the union, we had no problem finding all the products listed. For ALL of us.

Beauty? There have been black winners of the Miss America Pageant. The show ‘America’s Next Top Model’ is hosted by a stunningly beautiful woman, Tyra Banks, who happens to be black. The American notion of beauty is demonstrably a multi-racial one.

I’ll give it to you on hair, though. The hairdressing industry seems rigidly divided. Though, I must confess, in my experience, this is due to the radically different methods employed, the radically different techniques used more than any racial motive. But you can say otherwise.

All three of my children are in AP or GT(gifted and talented) programs, so they’ve not been through the SN wringer. But there are differences in how they’re treated at school.

The dark skinned child is constantly forced into leadership roles she does not want. She is given ‘awards’ for completing basic coursework. She is, essentially lauded for being a smart black person. Her sister, who appears more white, gets none of this.

They are both in the AP program, they have many of the same classes. Yet only the dark skinned one is laden down with false ‘esteem-building’. Why?

Oddly enough these ‘awards’ do not have the effect the teachers seem to want–they garner laziness as she realizes she doesn’t have to work to garner praise.

Discipline in schools seems to share this odd distortion. Rough-housing and ‘play’ fighting among black students can escalate to levels that would get(and has gotten) white students suspended without teacher intervention. Why?

My horrified answer to this is that the white liberals who run the schools think the black students simply can’t help themselves(this is not supposition, it’s what I’ve been told). They allow it based on ‘cultural’ or ‘environmental’ norms that they suppose the children adhere to.

They call this the ’soft’ racism of low expectations. I find this far worse than the hurling of epithets or the prattle of neo-nazis. In this way they allow young black children to internalise behaviour that will hurt them all through their lives.

When you speak of leaders and mentors that ‘look like me’ you demonstrate the point you make when you talk about how white Americans are colorblind to their own prejudices. You think, for some reason, that black children need to see black faces to learn. Yet you claim to be parenting one–and possibly more. You have set yourself the task of inculcating skin-color legitimacy in your own child.

Because you think that you child cannot thrive without it.

Think about that.

For my part, we have tried–and I think suceeded–in making it clear to our children that wisdom, and stupidity, come in all colors, but the thoughts themselves have no color at all.

Finally to my original point. Advantage. The ‘birthright’ you dismiss was won by your forebears, it did not just materialise. People struggled to raise themselves up, to have a better life. That is how the ‘privileges’ you dismiss as unearned birthright were won.

You stand on the shoulders of your ancestors, it is your duty to provide the pedestal your children will stand on to reach ever higher.

Thus it has ever been vis-a-vis self-segregation, either racially or ethnically. When my maternal grandparents emigrated here from Hungary to Pittsburgh, PA, they settled in a neighborhood where the stores carried familiar foods and everyone spoke Hungarian. Totally logical since, although my grandfather spoke English fluently before they ever came here, my grandmother had not yet learned (although she did, and as I understand it, quite well).

Now interestingly, my great aunt and her husband emigrated right around the same time as my grandparents and they settled in the same neighborhood (this was in the very early 1900s). While my grandmother did learn to speak fluent English, my great aunt never did until the 70s when she was hospitalized in New York where NOBODY spoke Hungarian and she HAD to learn some English.

I have absolutely no idea where this is going, but I find it an interesting snippet of information.

Perhaps what I am doing is making an argument for our nation insisting on English as a national language to aid assimilation.

Everyone visiting here – have a really fabulous holiday weekend.

That little Autumn reminds me of poor little JonBenet. Another case where a little innocent girl is dolled up to look older and trained like to perform in ways they really can’t understand. Very sad.

“There’s nothing wrong with ethnic pride. There is something wrong with racial pride.”

A difference without a distinction. If this is the case, African-Americans cannot experience “ethnic pride” because they do not know their ethnicity. The average A-A could not tell you if his forefathers came from Ghana, Zimbabwe or Kenya.

The picture I saw of a Minutemen unit near the border, with black and white guys posing arm-in-arm, is a classic example of culture trumping race. The black and the white Minutemen share a common culture (American) and a common goal (protecting our sovereignty).

Doesn’t anyone else here find it a bit disturbing that “Prussian Blue”’s expression of “white pride” includes naming their singing group after the chemicals used in the Auschwitz gas chambers?

To my knowledge there are no Black or Latino pride groups which glorify Nazi genocide, so it doesn’t seem like a “double standard” to criticize this to me… but maybe I am in the minority on this, if the “nazis” are now considered “cool” with conservative commentators then I suppose that is just another cultural shift I will have to get used to.

Black, in America, has an understood context of American Black.

That is not racial pride, that is ethnic pride.

LaShawn opined that whites have:

“no moral authority to be proud of who they are, at least not in public.”

I agree. Where I don’t agree is to use a brain-washed white-supremacist double-act wearing Hitler Tees as an example of this. Y’s ee I’m funny like that; I take great issue with the equation of Nazism and ‘pride’.

I’m caucasian, and will NOT be equated with swastika bearers who are attempting yet again to smear via concepts of ‘race.’

In the UK where I live, there is still racial tension, although it doesn’t seem so politicized/partisan as the feeling I get from American blogs. I was raised by my father to negatively identify anyone from India or Pakistan as ‘Paki’. And black people were ‘blacks’ and hence ‘not as bad as pakis but still not good’. If a white girl went with a black man, she was labelled a ’slut’ for instance. Chinese or Japanese were to be called ‘Chinks’ and were supposed to be sneaky, dirty, under-handed, and dog-eating. My parents identify strongly with the white race, favour Switzeland for it’s ‘pure’, ‘clean’ living. They hold contempt/irritation for other ‘foreigners’. Yet I don’t see that as them being ‘white’. To me it seems like they are just insecure. So I don’t wear the ‘white guilt’ very well. I’m fully cogent of the wordwide atrocities committed by ‘white’ people. And by ‘black’ people. But there is no racial ‘we’ in my reckoning. So while I’m not ashamed of being white, I’m not proud of it either. It simply makes no sense to me. I’m proud of me for being a human who does the best he can with the cards he was dealt!

On a final note, in Great Britain it certainly is NOT OK for either ‘radical blacks’ or ‘radical whites’ to call for genocide!

So whether it’s the CoCC or the Black Panthers, the New Hitler Youth or the cartoon clerics…

…their attitudes are bad for us all, m’kay.

Can we agree on that simple stuff?

Shade:
The city of New York honored her with a proclamation for inspiring “her peers, as well as adults, while also demonstrating the power of a father’s love, the importance of education and the limitless boundaries of the human mind.” New York City councilwoman Yvette Clark called her “one of the most precious young talents that this world has ever known.”

I can’t imagine the City of New York honoring Prussian Blue for inspiring their peers. I think this is where the perception comes from.

dd

As I recall, those accolades came before her recent notorious speech. After that speech, outrage prompted a recorded telephone message sent to each household apologizing to every parent in the school. She was also banned from performing at any school in the district. This accompanied a media firestorm of controversy surrounding the incident. All one has to do is google her name to see it.

One can legitimately argue that the Prussian Blue girls would not have gotten the opportunity to perform at any school, but it is inaccurate to say that Autumn was given a pass for her speech.

Rep J, please correct me if I’m wrong, but I remember Clinton blasting Sister Souljah, I sure don’t recall any conservative commentators blasting Prussian Blue, the Angry Aryans, or any of the other white power hate rock groups that are so popular with the kids these days.

Bigots Who Rock: an ADL List of Hate Music Groups

Gosh the way Prussian Blue markets themselves sure is clever though.

Right on the Prussian Blue forum board there are already comments from posters gleefully describing the support they are receiving from conservative pundits.

I guess penetrating the mainstream is going to be easier for the “white nationalist” movement than anyone could have anticipated – they have already made significant inroads into the “Minutemen” organization as well, which is a bit scary.

Early this year, white supremacist and neo-Nazi Web sites began openly recruiting for the Minuteman Project. In response, Gilchrist and Simcox proclaimed that neo-Nazi Skinheads and race warriors from organizations such as the National Alliance and Aryan Nations were specifically banned from participating. Pressured by journalists to explain exactly how they planned to keep these undesirables out, the two organizers said they were working with the FBI to carefully check the backgrounds of all potential Minuteman volunteers, only to have the FBI completely deny this was the case.

I guess I should of known that the white devil could not do anything good.

So you would prefer that blacks look at affirmative action as something good? Conservatives REPEATEDLY proclaim affirmative action to be a paternalistic racist plot by white liberals and now you express disagreement. La Shawn made the assertion that you quoted and she is as conservative as they come. What do you expect black folks to believe; that affirmative action is something that whites are doing well or something that they are doing that is not good? I figure that what you heard on the radio station would be something to be happy about.

“Conservatives REPEATEDLY proclaim affirmative action to be a paternalistic racist plot by white liberals and now you express disagreement.”

I think conservatives claim affirmative action is “racist” because it requires identifying one racial group (are you black enough to be black) and giving racial preference – not because white liberals think blacks are inferior and need help.

“all White nationalists can see are enemies, all around.”

I’m caucasian, so I guess my perspective is different, because the only real enemies I see are people like you. And no I don’t mean ‘white’ people.

As a ‘white’ person, you don’t get to speak for me. No matter if you are black, white or green. If your primary motivation is racial or supremacist (religious or otherwise)then your only feasible perspective can be one of alienation. Alienation of yourself and of anyone around you who doesn’t share your fixations.

You took your chance to forcibly impose notions of yourselves as a ‘Super-race’, and proved *nothing* other than that human beings can become murderous monsters, driven by power, fear of the ‘Other’, distrust, greed.

You ask:

“Identify yourself as someone who is at least not our enemy, and who does not go along with the silly “Hitler Blood Libel,” that the Jews have so successfully smeared on us.”

May you and people who think like you finally develop the intelligence and integrity that will enable you to learn the shame that you bring upon both yourselves and the human race. I’m ‘white’ and you’ll never speak for me or any child of mine for as long as I live.

Your arrogant opinion that you speak for my ‘race’ is nothing but an insult. My grandfather’s parachute battalion manually interred many of the the corpses that your Aryan ‘Race’ murdered. And he is ‘white’. He never recovered from that and other horrors. He doesn’t wear ‘white shame’ for what Nazis did. He wears shrapnel under his skin. And the best you can do is call the jews ’silly’. Shame on you.

At least have the honour to find a name for Nazism other than ‘white pride’. You do the rest of us whites a great disservice. The white ‘race’ and the rest of the world chose *not* to be Nazis. That choice was paid for by the blood of millions. Alongside brothers and sisters of the human race of many nationalities/colours. Fighting YOUR ideals. One day you might *get* that. And I hope that shame would finally set your heart free.

I heard just as much about that little black girl as I did about Prussian Blue. The girl even made the cover of the NY Post.

As for why Prussian Blue may have garnered more attention, it’s not because they are racists, it’s because they are straight up Nazis. A Nazi pop duo is far more interesting than a little black girl spouting racist poetry — especially since the little white girls are old enough to know better.

Correction: the last clause of the first paragraph should have read: ” though they do combat bigotry other than anti-black bigotry as well.”

I’ll wait until I see LaRaza and NAACP talking about killing folks before I go as far calling them terrorists.

Its funny, terrorism against black-skinned people was allowed, even perpetrated in this country, for over 200 years. Groups like the NAACP were created to combat this. Fortunately, they arent needed now, they are no longer relevant today.

The worst part is, conservative christians for the most part, refused to help and combat these problems, probably the greatest sin of this country.

La Raza, in reference to the loose confederation of leftist America-hating Aztlan reconquista types, means something quite a bit more sinister than “the people.”

Keith, I’m not sure that anyone could have missed La Shawn’s point any more completely than you have.

I suggest slowly re-reading her original post while keeping your knee-jerking to a minimum. That always helps comprehension.

There are male-only organizations, women-only organizations, and black-only organizations.

So on one level, it stands to reason that there should be white-only organizations.

The problem is — and I think many here may be turning a blind eye to this fact — that white-only organizations do NOT celebrate “white culture” so much as engage in attempts to suppress other cultures and races.

Prussian Blue, for example, does not celebrate white culture — the girls celebrate white supremacy. Anyone who confuses the two does so at their own peril.

There is something about using the term ‘white interests’ that gets everyone thinking ‘racist’ no matter how innocuous that conversation might be.

That’s because “white interests” — when it actually gets defined — tends to have, as an element, the subjugation or discrimination of other races.

In other words, “white interest” is just a euphamism for “white supremacy”.

Can you define an innocuous “white interest”? That is, an interest that is exclusive to whites and DOESN’T involve the “putting down” or subjugation of other races?