Because of the United States’s lax immigration policies, Islamofacists are firmly embedded. But hey, what can you do?
Every now and then, the government works the way it’s supposed to. The New York Daily News reports that the Federal Bureau of Investigation has stopped a plot to bomb the Holland Tunnel and drown innocent people.
[Update @ 12:26 p.m.: FOX News says the main target was the underground PATH train system.]
By the way, today’s the first anniversary of the London terrorist bombing.
Anytime, anywhere…We’ll never know how close we come to danger.
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Mark La Roi pointed me to this article:
FBI agents yesterday raided a North Side residence known to many in the neighborhood and the Pittsburgh Islamic community as both an Islamic school and mosque…The agency would say only that the search was in connection with a “criminal investigation” and wouldn’t elaborate.
Update (7/8): Glenn Greenwald says this “foiled” plot is not the success we think it is.
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Here’s an investigation into a local Mosque and school that may or may not turn into something more:
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06182/702647-53.stm
Why doesn’t the NYT tell us all the leads the FBI is working on and all the ways they go about picking up clues? It is our right to know, darn it. And hey, if it tips off the bad guys, that is the price we have to pay for freedom! And if it costs us our freedom, well,……er……I…….uh……..well, it is our right to know, isn’t it? Isn’t it? We do need to know, don’t we? Well, don’t we?
A large muslim population in this country will be fatal to any attempts to check terrorism on our soil. Check out the implications for Europe [and eventually the U.S. in this interactive map from MSNBC.
http://cassandra2004.blogspot.com/2006/07/msnbc-map-of-islam-in-europe-eurabia.html
This link leads also to other sources that reveal the underestimations in the MSNBC map of muslim numbers. The links also summarize commentary from Steyn, Buchanon, Spengler, Schlussel and others regarding population trends and the necessary implications. Also included is a similar map of Africa.
[If the link doesn't work, click on my name.]
We are between a rock and a hard place. If you’ve ever seen the movie “The Siege” with Denzel and Bruce Willis, this is the only “safe” option. There is no way short of massive intrusions in the lives of pretty much all Muslim men ages 16-50 there is no way to know a terrorist from a turnip. Though in all honesty, from what I’ve heard, the American Muslim Community has been more willing than any other group in history to accept a little inconvenience and intrusion to clear the massive majority of them who are innocent.
Heliotrope,
Why doesn’t the NYT tell us all the leads the FBI is working on and all the ways they go about picking up clues?
They should tell us, and it should be on the front page above the fold. Because, after all, we (and the terrorists) already know the FBI is tracking leads, so if the NYT gives us the details, it wouldn’t hurt anyone…
Jeez!
Everyone know’s the FBI is tracking leads, and everyone knows that the army special forces are doing things in Iraq. Do we need to publish the locations and details of these things? Criminals know police are fighting the war on crime. Do they need to know what crack houses are on the list to be busted? How about we advertise informant names and undercover agents, we all know they’re passing info to the cops. BECAUSE JUST BECAUSE YOU KNOW SOMETHING IS HAPPENING, DOESN’T MEAN YOU KNOW IT’S COMING AFTER YOU! If these terrorists had known the FBI was knocking down their door, they would have hidden the plans, and destroyed evidence. Then how many people would have died in the interest to know that the government is doing something that they have the right to do and that protects you. I am all for disclosure but there is a point where you need to stop worrying about why you are safe and thank someone for keeping it that way.
I’n waiting for liberals to spin this in a way that downplays the significance.
#13 John: SkyePuppy and I are engaging in sarcasm.
You are dead on about how stupid it is for the press to blab everything they stumble on and then claim it is their near obligation to publish it loud and clear.
Wouldn’t it be just too ironic if the New Times Building got bombed and the FBI explained that they didn’t dare warn the Times for fear that the NYT would publish the details and tip off the terrorists?
I caught your sarcasm Helio, I thought puppy was too out there to be true but they seemed to be genuinely arguing with you.
John,
Sorry my sarcasm was too subtle (subtlety isn’t usually one of my qualities). I was just repeating the NYT’s own reasoning. What a bunch of losers!
I realize the Holland Tunnel is used every day by real live actual people, but being from California, my only contact with it is in the movie, “The Deadly Mantis.” Since the FBI says the terrorists were serious and getting outside help, the terrorists’ plans were much worse than having to napalm a gigantic preying mantis in the Tunnel.
It would be nice if the Treason Times would learn either to 1) shut up when national security is at risk, or 2) report the terrorists’ secrets once in a while. Getting both from them might be asking too much.
My fault in reasoning was that I assumed what I leanred from the Duke Rape case: Never assume someone is too smart to hold an opinion.
SkyePuppy Said: “It would be nice if the Treason Times would learn either to 1) shut up when national security is at risk, or 2) report the terrorists’ secrets once in a while. Getting both from them might be asking too much.”
SteveDinMD: The NYT (along with every “journalist”) will learn only after Keller and Sulzburger spend 10 years (with the rest of their lives remaining) undergoing “attitude adjustment” in the bowels of the Federal SuperMax in Colorado, where they will never again see the sun, nor a leaf, nor a blade of grass. Lock them up, and throw away the key!
The thought of Sulzburger, sitting in his opulent office, callously and notoriously abetting the murder of thousands of his countrymen — each a far better person than himself — while sipping the finest Mouton Rothschild is infuriating to honest, patriotic citizens. This man’s arrogance is without limit. He and those like him must be humbled, torn from their lofty perches and brought low, to be utterly destroyed as an example. Only then will evildoers fear the law so that it will be respected…and OBEYED!
I’ve seen one article which said that the bombing was going to be set for 9-11-06. I think it might be wise to not only go to high alert a week before that date, but also to aggressivly begin a campaign at that time, taking the war to them, putting the Islamists on the defensive. And before someone reports me to codepick for making warlike statements , we are ALL anti-war. We just differ on how to achieve Peace.
Read between the lines. The FBI was quoted as saying this was part of an ongoing investigation.
The paper blew another investigation. For what. There was no risk in non-disclosure. Some of the protagonists are in jail and it appears that the FBI were tracking the rest.
Methinks the leakers used another MSM news source to take the heat off the NYT.
PS:
It looks as if some politicians knew of this investigation for some time. King is quoted as saying he knew of it for ten months. He was just itching to reveal it as a way of keeping more DHS money.
Maybe the FBI needs to look at who the papers “on the record” congressional sources are and they might just find out who leaked the story.
This shows my son and his co=workers are hard working and I am thankful you and Michelle and others bring out just how hard they try.
This is a huge Nation and if people only knew what is stopped on a daily business day it would amaze them. Homeland is not, 100% but imagine if this had happened.
I blame the politicians that want the illegals to come on in. I am on the Southern part of the United States and we hear of things others don’t in other countries.
Keep up the good reporting La Shawn
Good grief, (myself) above I wrote other countries meaning counties
I do blame the politicians for the mess and lax. Our men and women do all they can and need more help!
There’s no such thing as an Islamofascist, that’s an unjustified label created by Conservatives for the purpose of fear mongering.
#27 pontificates: “There’s no such thing as an Islamofascist, that’s an unjustified label created by Conservatives for the purpose of fear mongering.”
Do tell! Here is Webster’s on “fascism”: Any program for setting up a centralized autocratic national regime with severely nationalistic policies, exercising regimentation of industry, commerce and finance, rigid censorship, and forcible suppression of opposition.
Here is Webster’s on “theocracy”: Government of a state by the immediate direction of God; thearchy; hence, government by priests or ministers as representatives of God. (2) A state so governed.
The fundamentalist Islamic jihad waging, terrorism plotting and practicing zealots are bent on a Taliban style theocracy which incorporates all of the elements of fascism. Check out Iran, the struggles in Indonesia, the internal fight Mussaraf is waging in Pakistan, what is blooming in Somalia, the Saudi struggle with containing Wahabbism, the fundamentalist core that opposes Mubarak in Egypt, the jihad in Northern Malaysia against Southern Thailand, the civil war in Chechnya, etc.
Islamofascist(s) cuts to the chase. Liberals should celebrate a “new” word.
Why do I get the feeling that many liberals are comfortable making war on the war on terrorism? Do they still feel that rolling over is preferable to standing up? (Better “red” than dead.) Perhaps we only need to send Jimmy Carter to chat these guys up. He did so well in Iran, Venezuela, North Korea, Haiti etc. Maybe we should boycott the Olympics. Maybe we should shred the Constitution and just become a plebiscite of the United Nations. Jeez! So many choices…….what shall we do?
Heliotrope Said: “Why do I get the feeling that many liberals are comfortable making war on the war on terrorism? Do they still feel that rolling over is preferable to standing up?”
SteveDinMD: I’m afraid what we’re seein from the Democrats is the implementation of a cynical political strategy, born out of their frustration in the aftermath of the 2002 mid-term elections. Historically, parties opposed to a sitting President have recorded significant gains among their Congressional caucuses. Democrats therefore expected to take control of both the House and Senate in 2002, but that wasn’t the case. Democrats actually LOST ground in 2002, and they attributed their electoral defeat to a wave of support accruing to the President as a consequence of the “War on Terrorism.” Some analysts have described this phenomenon as a “Patriotism Effect” that naturally occurs when the country is at war.
Democrats, facing a similar political situation in the 2004 election, decided on a strategy designed to diminish the President’s built-in “war boost” in the polls. Their strategy had two parts:
1) Undermine the war’s legitimacy in the public’s mind, and
2) Undermine the President’s effectiveness in prosecuting the war.
Moreover, this strategy was totally unprecedented in U.S. history. The Democrats, in their pursuit of raw power, had effectively decided to advance the cause of the ENEMY. Make no mistake. Though practically all Democrats publicly “supported the troops,” their secret agenda was almost uniformly to increase U.S. casualties in order to inspire war-weariness in the electorate, with news of each and every roadside bomb gleefully received at DNC Headquarters. It’s sickening.
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