Statements like these seem to imply that ONLY blacks dont believe that they are and/or that other races of people are not. It could just be me though.

I dont believe government dependency makes it easier for people to give into their sin nature. Again, it goes back onto the that person and that person alone. Personal responsibility. Once we start saying that this or that “made me do it”, we negate that statement. No outside entity is responsible whatsoever.

But still, just because someone makes bad decisions doesnt mean we arent obligated to help that person.

But I am trying to remember the last time I heard about a murder in the Vatican, outside of the movies.

First make the definitions rather wide:

Has a man ever touched you while dancing when you did not want to be touched?

10% say yes

Ask multiple questions:

Has a man ever touched you at dinner when you did not want to be touched?

10% say yes

Add up the 10 plus ten plus more, subtract for overlap and gasp – 25 percent of women have been raped or sexually assaulted.

“Scotland had the highest rate of violent crime in the Western world.” is

based on ONE TELEPHONE survey. I could do a telephone survey finding 100,000 black women are raped by white men every year.

HINT: when you see information on any advocacy site, pro/anti guns / discrimination – double check the information on Google.

“Many experts believe Britain’s heavy-drinking culture is to blame for the frequency with which fights break out.

The study, based on phone interviews with victims of crime in 21 countries, found that more than 2,000 Scots are attacked every week — almost 10 times police figures. The crimes covered by the study include assaults, but exclude street muggings, sexual violence and murder. ”

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1785929,00.html

Compare Scottland’s recent crimes with any large US city:

“Recent victims include a 14-year-old schoolboy from Glasgow who lost an eye after he was hit in the face with a bottle during an unprovoked attack, and a 17-year-old girl from Edinburgh who was left unconscious after being punched, kicked and stamped on by a gang of girls.”

Have you been asleep?

Violent crime in London is worse than NY City. Scotland had the highest rate of violent crime in the Western world.

Did you forget about the train bombings in UK and Spain, the night club blown up by Hezbollah in Germany, and the Islamic thugs burning cars in France?

LaShawn Barber attended the Moral Reconstruction: A Model for Urban Transformation Conference. It sounds like it was a terrific event.

I feel that the church has not stepped out to the plate to help the victims as much as we should. In a message board on Christian Connect- http://www.ChristianConnect.com comments were being made that perhaps it is the church that lacks the morality this country needs and not the victims of Katrina….

An argument is true or false regardless of the individual that makes the argument – and certainly does not depend on the race of the person making the argument.

You would do well to interview those individual to get the real deal on the Anti-Affirmative Action Movement.

I didn’t state or imply that Connerly was the “originator or author” of anything. I wrote that he “led the charge.” That can be interpreted to mean his name generated the necessary publicity or that he was seen as “leader” of the movement. I also linked to the web site where people can find the info they need. If the “real deal” of the movement is to outlaw race- and sex-based government hiring and admissions, I support it wholeheartedly. – Admin

I would not call this or even a forum of radicals “useless,” but if the argument is that morality, religion will only save a few individuals at the margin, I might agree.

I am not an expert on international, cultural macro sociology, but Europe (except Sicily) seems to have minimal crime and corruption with little religion. But Latin America, which is more religious, has more corruption.

There will always be opportunist individuals who will be corrupt or commit crimes and morality talks will not change their behavior.

What will change their behavior is the odds of getting caught and how the rest of their “society” will treat them.

If it’s “gotta do what you gotta do,” “everyone does it,” and “the man owes you,” as opposed to “you are a sick, pathetic, weak man” and “anyone you tell about it will turn you in” you get more crime.

La Shawn Barber is exploring Moral Reconstruction: A Model for Urban Transformation, at a conference.

Well help spread the word! – Admin

How do you get someone who feels hopeless to change their thinking and heart? By calling them immoral? By constantly blaming them for issues in their lives? (yes, we all reap the harvest from seeds we’ve sown). But who among us would really listen to someone who is seen only demeaning people like you. Not many.

LaShawn, I believe many Christian conservatives (for lack of better term) have the right motives but have the wrong presentation. If, however, they would look to Jesus as their example, I believe their efforts would be much more fruitful. If you look at Jesus, He did not condemn the people who were broken, hurting, morally bankrupt, and sick. Instead, He healed them, clothe them, forgave them, protected them, and feed them. At that point, the people were willing to hear and receive His message of repentance and salvation. So likewise, I believe to reestablish the moral compass of the black community, we all need to follow the example of Jesus in dealing with those who are broken. Though many people have sinned and continue to do things that negatively affect their lives, it is really up to Christians not to condemn them; but instead, show them love and explain that Jesus has provided a path to deliverance from every negative situation in their lives.

I firmly believe that at root of all the problems we face, individually and as a nation, are spiritual. La Shawn Barber gives us a good report from the Moral Reconstruction: A Model for Urban Transformation Conference held recently in Washington D.C.