These words(racist, prejudice, etc) are used to
explain things away that we have no other answer
for or do we just use them because media and
government has brainwashed all of us to use these
words when we don’t like something that happens
between different cultures that upsets us.
Instead of looking at the real problem and fixing
that so it does not happen again.
There are good people and there are bad people
in every race most just want to live a life.
I was raised that an American is a American no
matter what ancestors you came from because in
the end we all end up in the same place anyways.

To use the words “Black” “Hispanic” “White” in an
organizations title to me means you are just out
to help that group of people and to real change
how we look at things here in America we should be organizing to help all Americans not just a
group of certain people.

Hope everyone can understand what I mean; I’m not
to good at writing down my thoughts.

Anyway I enjoy reading all the comments and told
others to check this site out because of its
openness. Thanks.

I’ll take your example of a bigoted liberal and raise you another example of a bigoted conservative….etc

Is there really any point in trying to ‘prove’ that only the ‘other side’ are racist/lying/bigoted/mean/witless/sanctimonous ad infinatum? That does so seem to be the way that political discourse heads.

I’m not speaking in defence of ‘liberals’ either, just of individuals, common-sense, whatever.

Michelle Malkin is covering this as it plays out at the Huffington Post. This ranks right down there in the gutter with the obscene leftist cartoon caricatures of Dr. Rice and the “house slave” slander Belafonte directed at Gen. Powell.

I’m puzzled as to why anyone considers the left to be the proper home for minorities.

http://www.michellemalkin.com/

Yeah? But would that be the same kind of ‘true’ statement as me saying: ‘conservatives whites actively hate minorities’.

Are you talking about the Seattle School thang? Or those of us ‘whites’ who don’t support White Supremacists?

Oh wait, someone said recently that only one kind of person generalizes, and that’s a liberal. Errr….

Are you saying that you are a liberal white person? Because liberal whites actively participate in promoting the idea that only whites can be racist.

Want to know why? Because we have been told over and over that only we can be racist. I think it is a crock, but what can I say. It is what it is and a lot of us labeled as “white” are tired of the whole thing.

I think that if the body politic can be kept talking about divisive things like race, we will never know that we are being sold down the river to the latest bunch of thieves. There is the war between the sexes, racial relations, etc….

Good luck….

How about you just call me RedBeard and I’ll just call you Shade? Forget all the extraneous junk. Then we can work together to solve important stuff like the Big Bang Theory, how they made Wesley Snipes look so big in Blade, or the mystery of why on earth Paris Hilton is famous.

Well, one group separates into area caucuses (I generally view caucuses as sort of lobyists) and BET has been mentioned in the posts (an organization for entertainment and not lobbying). But the point relates to the consistently mentioned swapping of the terms “black” and “white” and not whether race based organizations such as the one discussed should exist. I don’t particularly support the existance of such organizations. What I am showing is that there are and can be white oriented organizations accepted by blacks. The key is to eliminate the deep rooted perceptions of why such organizations would be created.

You state that you’ve “yet to read/heard an answer from blacks who advocate/support black-named groups”, yet you yourself answered the question in an earlier blog regarding “black pride”. You gave their argument and declared it to be legitimate, but added that the time has passed for black pride groups. Such supporters differ from you only in that they don’t believe the time has passed for them.

Black people form black oriented organizations because of the perception (whether this perception is right or wrong) that they are necessary; that black people need such organizations. They are not formed out of anti-white feelings. Black people, as well as most white people, don’t feel that white oriented organizations are necessary for whites. Why would whites need specific socio-economic advancement when whites are practically the embodiment of such advancement? If there were no mainstream black organizations, there would not even be consideration for white mainstream organizations. The only reason that such organizations are mentioned is in response to the presence of the numerous black organizations. Thus, the formation of a NAAWP (which actually exists), white caucus, Ivory magazine, Miss White America, United White College Fund, etc. etc. would be done almost entirely out of spite and black people simply are not going to respect an organization created spitefully. So that is one perception.

The other perception is that white organizations are generally white supremacy organizations and that White Nationalism is most often simply a pseudonym for white supremacy. The NAAWP that exists today is a racist organization. They readily refer to blacks by the n-word during speeches and promote white supremacy. Since blacks today commonly suffer from a significant degree of paranoia about racism, such perceptions are easily manifested. The links in my previous post show how white organization can be acceptable to blacks if blacks are convinced that they are not racist and that they have a real purpose beyond spite.

Also, there is another point with regards to switching “white” and “black”. The term “black” does not denote racial purity. It denotes anyone of black African descent. Thus, Halle Berry would be accepted in any and all exclusively black organizations despite being biracial. Yet, she would not be accepted in an exclusively white organization. Furthermore, the term “black” as used the vast majority of the time in America denotes a specific, homogeneous ethnic group. It generally doesn’t include those who are Afro-Caribbean, Africans, Afro-Brazilians, etc. The term “black” is synonymous with the term African American which refers mostly to black descendents of slaves in the U.S. When Americans say “black culture” they are referring to black American culture/subculture.

“White” on the other hand, includes numerous ethnicities such as Italians, Germans, Irish, ethnic Jews, Scandinavians, etc. right here in America. These groups have numerous ethnic based organizations and I think that they are more comparable to black organizations than the general term “white”. All can be viewed as minority groups.

http://www.euroamerican.org/

http://www.wacan.org/

http://www.whiteprivilegeconference.com/content/view/93/67/

http://www.aware.revolt.org/

http://tep.uoregon.edu/workshops/teachdiversity/beingwhite/whiteculture.html

http://www.csmonitor.com/2001/0814/p2s1-ussc.html

Come on, Shade! This post is NOT about opposition to mere titles or COLLEGE COURSES with the words “white” or “black” or “European” in them. It’s about groups whose purpose is to lobby the government for change in law and public policy who choose skin color-related names. My point was that illegal “immigration” affects all Americans, that it’s not a black/white issue, and a group calling itself “Choose Black America” is being needlessly and unintentionally exclusive. It’s pointless and a bit silly to start posting links to sites or groups that make reference to race. Let’s be adults about this, please, and understand distinctions. – Admin

There’s only one guaranteed conclusion to humanity’s racial mess – the “second coming.”

What would the general opinion be if an anti-illegal immigration group were formed using the name Choose White America?