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		<title>By: Sage</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/10/03/2181/comment-page-1/#comment-77965</link>
		<dc:creator>Sage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Oct 2006 19:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can anyone who cares about security or moral values vote for Republicans?  This is the most corrupt, morally bankrupt party in U.S. history.

On moral values: They protected a sex predator in order to maintain their hold on power.  This is simply disgusting, and worse than anything the Democrats ever did.  Clinton and Barney Frank engaged in consensual affairs, they did not prey on underage kids.

Republicans talk about banning abortion, but they&#039;ll never do it when push comes to shove.  Why? Cause they care more about power and big business than they care about Christian voters.  They will continue wooing Christians but will never deliver.

Republicans have bankrupted the country with massive debts.  They have sent thousands of soldiers to die in a war that has nothing to do with 9/11.  They support Rumsfeld, who had bungled the war from day one.  Republicans refuse to raise the minimum wage or provide health care for children.  Is that what you call moral values?

On security: Bush never sent enough troops to Afghanistan.  He let Osama Bin Laden escape at Tora Bora in 2001.  Now Bin Laden is free and we aren&#039;t even looking for him.  Republicans have turned the Homeland Security department into another inept FEMA-like pork barrel department.  They don&#039;t guard our borders, our ports, or our nuclear plants.  The CIA just said that the Iraq War is creating more terrorists who hate America.  

Democrats are not as corrupt as Republicans, not even close.  How many Republicans have to go to jail before you realize this?  If you are disgusted by the many failures of this Congress, you DO have a choice.  Vote Democrat!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can anyone who cares about security or moral values vote for Republicans?  This is the most corrupt, morally bankrupt party in U.S. history.</p>
<p>On moral values: They protected a sex predator in order to maintain their hold on power.  This is simply disgusting, and worse than anything the Democrats ever did.  Clinton and Barney Frank engaged in consensual affairs, they did not prey on underage kids.</p>
<p>Republicans talk about banning abortion, but they&#8217;ll never do it when push comes to shove.  Why? Cause they care more about power and big business than they care about Christian voters.  They will continue wooing Christians but will never deliver.</p>
<p>Republicans have bankrupted the country with massive debts.  They have sent thousands of soldiers to die in a war that has nothing to do with 9/11.  They support Rumsfeld, who had bungled the war from day one.  Republicans refuse to raise the minimum wage or provide health care for children.  Is that what you call moral values?</p>
<p>On security: Bush never sent enough troops to Afghanistan.  He let Osama Bin Laden escape at Tora Bora in 2001.  Now Bin Laden is free and we aren&#8217;t even looking for him.  Republicans have turned the Homeland Security department into another inept FEMA-like pork barrel department.  They don&#8217;t guard our borders, our ports, or our nuclear plants.  The CIA just said that the Iraq War is creating more terrorists who hate America.  </p>
<p>Democrats are not as corrupt as Republicans, not even close.  How many Republicans have to go to jail before you realize this?  If you are disgusted by the many failures of this Congress, you DO have a choice.  Vote Democrat!</p>
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		<title>By: MyDD</title>
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		<dc:creator>MyDD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Oct 2006 21:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Racial Politics This Week -- A Roundup &lt;/strong&gt;

Mama&#039;s got a lot to do today and I bet you do too. So I&#039;m gonna hit you with some quick links to check out in our weekly roundup of what&#039;s happening at the crossroads where minorities and politics meet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Racial Politics This Week &#8212; A Roundup </strong></p>
<p>Mama&#8217;s got a lot to do today and I bet you do too. So I&#8217;m gonna hit you with some quick links to check out in our weekly roundup of what&#8217;s happening at the crossroads where minorities and politics meet.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/10/03/2181/comment-page-1/#comment-77678</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 06:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s simple. If you found out that a teacher was sending these IMs and emails to your 16 year child, you would want his head on a platter. And if you discovered that the principal knew about it, or the VP or the gym teacher, and they did nothing, you would want them out as well.

If you found out that your 21 year old daughter&#039;s college professor was banging her in the classroom, you would hate it, but it wouldn&#039;t be the same. It might be unethical, but it would Apples and Wrenches.
We are the party that ran on &quot;Values&quot;. We aren&#039;t supposed to look at this and scream, well they did it too! We are supposed to take the moral high ground, admit culpability and say, Party be damned, this is about protecting the kids. If we don&#039;t we are guilty of the hypocrisy we charge them with every day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s simple. If you found out that a teacher was sending these IMs and emails to your 16 year child, you would want his head on a platter. And if you discovered that the principal knew about it, or the VP or the gym teacher, and they did nothing, you would want them out as well.</p>
<p>If you found out that your 21 year old daughter&#8217;s college professor was banging her in the classroom, you would hate it, but it wouldn&#8217;t be the same. It might be unethical, but it would Apples and Wrenches.<br />
We are the party that ran on &#8220;Values&#8221;. We aren&#8217;t supposed to look at this and scream, well they did it too! We are supposed to take the moral high ground, admit culpability and say, Party be damned, this is about protecting the kids. If we don&#8217;t we are guilty of the hypocrisy we charge them with every day.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/10/03/2181/comment-page-1/#comment-77674</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 02:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geesh Michael, Gov&#039;ts enforce value judgements in the form of LAWS all the time. It is one of their responsibilies to promote the common good and prevent anarchy for heaven sake.

Let&#039;s take the Foley folly as an example. Gov&#039;t has made a law that states 16 or lower is a minor. This was a value judgement put into Law by the peoples elected Representatives in order to protect children from people like Foley.

If your moral value is inconsistent with this one, you may try to reduce, increase, or illiminate the law by getting enough voters to agree with your value and elect representatives that will change it.

Our whole society is held together by Laws the majority of people we elected to represent us found to be necessary to address problems between us......like killing each other or molesting children in this case. It&#039;s basic......isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geesh Michael, Gov&#8217;ts enforce value judgements in the form of LAWS all the time. It is one of their responsibilies to promote the common good and prevent anarchy for heaven sake.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s take the Foley folly as an example. Gov&#8217;t has made a law that states 16 or lower is a minor. This was a value judgement put into Law by the peoples elected Representatives in order to protect children from people like Foley.</p>
<p>If your moral value is inconsistent with this one, you may try to reduce, increase, or illiminate the law by getting enough voters to agree with your value and elect representatives that will change it.</p>
<p>Our whole society is held together by Laws the majority of people we elected to represent us found to be necessary to address problems between us&#8230;&#8230;like killing each other or molesting children in this case. It&#8217;s basic&#8230;&#8230;isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Mealling</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/10/03/2181/comment-page-1/#comment-77672</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Mealling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 01:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing is distasteful about values. What&#039;s distasteful is a government that&#039;s powerful enough to enforce one person&#039;s values over another. Values are the personal expression of morals, not something governments enforce.

If we disagree then that&#039;s the fundamental difference that&#039;s going to split the coalition eventually....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing is distasteful about values. What&#8217;s distasteful is a government that&#8217;s powerful enough to enforce one person&#8217;s values over another. Values are the personal expression of morals, not something governments enforce.</p>
<p>If we disagree then that&#8217;s the fundamental difference that&#8217;s going to split the coalition eventually&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/10/03/2181/comment-page-1/#comment-77668</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 01:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is distastful to you about values Michael?
Isn&#039;t it convenience over values that&#039;s about to take down the third in line to the Presidency?

Think about how better off the Republican Party
would be right now if they had stuck by the values we expected, instead of the convenience. 

I don&#039;t remember a Democrat ever resigning, or certainly not forced to by their own party, and we don&#039;t expect it because their values don&#039;t expect &#039;responsiblity&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is distastful to you about values Michael?<br />
Isn&#8217;t it convenience over values that&#8217;s about to take down the third in line to the Presidency?</p>
<p>Think about how better off the Republican Party<br />
would be right now if they had stuck by the values we expected, instead of the convenience. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t remember a Democrat ever resigning, or certainly not forced to by their own party, and we don&#8217;t expect it because their values don&#8217;t expect &#8216;responsiblity&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Mealling</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/10/03/2181/comment-page-1/#comment-77664</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Mealling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 00:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem I have with the &quot;At least they&#039;re not as as bad as the Democrats&quot; idea is that, while its true now, if the current trends continue it won&#039;t be  for much longer. 

The best reason I can find to vote Republican in this next election is this:
http://www.coxandforkum.com/archives/000950.html
Which essentially says, vote Republican so we can marginalize the Democrats enough so that the Republican party can split along its libertarian vs social conservative wings. I for one find &quot;values voters&quot; almost as distasteful as Democrats but at present we&#039;re in a coalition of convenience....

-MM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem I have with the &#8220;At least they&#8217;re not as as bad as the Democrats&#8221; idea is that, while its true now, if the current trends continue it won&#8217;t be  for much longer. </p>
<p>The best reason I can find to vote Republican in this next election is this:<br />
<a href="http://www.coxandforkum.com/archives/000950.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.coxandforkum.com/archives/000950.html</a><br />
Which essentially says, vote Republican so we can marginalize the Democrats enough so that the Republican party can split along its libertarian vs social conservative wings. I for one find &#8220;values voters&#8221; almost as distasteful as Democrats but at present we&#8217;re in a coalition of convenience&#8230;.</p>
<p>-MM</p>
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		<title>By: suek</title>
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		<dc:creator>suek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2006 23:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Worth checking...

http://tinyurl.com/jebqp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Worth checking&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/jebqp" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/jebqp</a></p>
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		<title>By: suek</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/10/03/2181/comment-page-1/#comment-77662</link>
		<dc:creator>suek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2006 23:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;First and last, stop lying. Monica was 22.&gt;&gt;

Maybe.  I&#039;ve seen 19, 20 and 22 in various places.  I don&#039;t really know which one is correct.  I suspect part of the different ages are when the relationship started, when the investigation began and when the actual court case took place.  

I&#039;d agree that she was an adult - even if she was only 19 at the time their relationship began - but the other factor is the President-Intern difference, just as with Foley it&#039;s a matter of Congressman-intern.  In other words, there are a number of complicating issues in this mess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;First and last, stop lying. Monica was 22.&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>Maybe.  I&#8217;ve seen 19, 20 and 22 in various places.  I don&#8217;t really know which one is correct.  I suspect part of the different ages are when the relationship started, when the investigation began and when the actual court case took place.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d agree that she was an adult &#8211; even if she was only 19 at the time their relationship began &#8211; but the other factor is the President-Intern difference, just as with Foley it&#8217;s a matter of Congressman-intern.  In other words, there are a number of complicating issues in this mess.</p>
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		<title>By: Pajamas Media</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/10/03/2181/comment-page-1/#comment-77656</link>
		<dc:creator>Pajamas Media</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2006 21:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Congressional Page Scandal 5: Hastert&#039;s Office Denies He Was Alerted 2 Years Ago About Foley Misconduct&lt;/strong&gt;

Foley Follow-up: Resigned GOP Staffer Fordham Says that He Told Hastert about Foley in 2004</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Congressional Page Scandal 5: Hastert&#8217;s Office Denies He Was Alerted 2 Years Ago About Foley Misconduct</strong></p>
<p>Foley Follow-up: Resigned GOP Staffer Fordham Says that He Told Hastert about Foley in 2004</p>
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		<title>By: Carol</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/10/03/2181/comment-page-1/#comment-77654</link>
		<dc:creator>Carol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2006 21:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Black folks, and I am one of them, vote Democrat because yours is the party of Bob Jones University and Katrina.&lt;/i&gt;

Interesting.  Because if you look at the history of both parties, &lt;i&gt;your&lt;/i&gt; party would have you calling me &quot;Miss Carol&quot; as you were sweeping my floors.  The Republican party was founded as the party of abolitionists.  How it ended up in its current state, I have no idea, but I do know it both sickens and saddens me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Black folks, and I am one of them, vote Democrat because yours is the party of Bob Jones University and Katrina.</i></p>
<p>Interesting.  Because if you look at the history of both parties, <i>your</i> party would have you calling me &#8220;Miss Carol&#8221; as you were sweeping my floors.  The Republican party was founded as the party of abolitionists.  How it ended up in its current state, I have no idea, but I do know it both sickens and saddens me.</p>
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		<title>By: Derrick</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/10/03/2181/comment-page-1/#comment-77620</link>
		<dc:creator>Derrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2006 14:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heliotrope,

First and last, stop lying. Monica was 22.  That&#039;s an adult who has graduated from college.  Big difference between that and a kid in high school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heliotrope,</p>
<p>First and last, stop lying. Monica was 22.  That&#8217;s an adult who has graduated from college.  Big difference between that and a kid in high school.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/10/03/2181/comment-page-1/#comment-77619</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2006 14:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hastert had the duty as leader of â€˜ourâ€™ House of Representatives to do the right. He cannot use the excuse he didnâ€™t read the emails, he should have. He cannot use the excuse he didnâ€™t know about the IMs, he didnâ€™t investigate. He cannot use the excuse he didnâ€™t know about Foleyâ€™s unusual behavior with pages, it was well known. 

We must have STANDARDS. Heâ€™s got to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hastert had the duty as leader of â€˜ourâ€™ House of Representatives to do the right. He cannot use the excuse he didnâ€™t read the emails, he should have. He cannot use the excuse he didnâ€™t know about the IMs, he didnâ€™t investigate. He cannot use the excuse he didnâ€™t know about Foleyâ€™s unusual behavior with pages, it was well known. </p>
<p>We must have STANDARDS. Heâ€™s got to go.</p>
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		<title>By: Susannah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susannah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2006 13:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I personally refuse to be politically manipulated and pandered into *not* voting.  You wish, DNC!!!  :)  Not all the facts are in yet re: how this was orchestrated.

I&#039;m glad Foley has been exposed and dumped, and I hope Democrats will take an example and clean their own house as well.  I remember being astounded that Barney Frank was allowed to remain in Congress.

I still believe there are at least a couple of good Congressman (having met them personally).  :)  That means there are probably more decent folks in Congress than indecent.  They don&#039;t always do the job I want them to, it&#039;s true, but then again, they sometimes do.  I&#039;m not going to throw a tantrum in November and refuse my civic duty to keep this country from sliding even *further* and *more quickly* downhill under Democratic leadership.  At least there are still some conservatives trying to put the brakes on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally refuse to be politically manipulated and pandered into *not* voting.  You wish, DNC!!!  <img src='http://lashawnbarber.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Not all the facts are in yet re: how this was orchestrated.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad Foley has been exposed and dumped, and I hope Democrats will take an example and clean their own house as well.  I remember being astounded that Barney Frank was allowed to remain in Congress.</p>
<p>I still believe there are at least a couple of good Congressman (having met them personally).  <img src='http://lashawnbarber.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   That means there are probably more decent folks in Congress than indecent.  They don&#8217;t always do the job I want them to, it&#8217;s true, but then again, they sometimes do.  I&#8217;m not going to throw a tantrum in November and refuse my civic duty to keep this country from sliding even *further* and *more quickly* downhill under Democratic leadership.  At least there are still some conservatives trying to put the brakes on.</p>
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		<title>By: DalenCincy</title>
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		<dc:creator>DalenCincy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2006 05:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to take the hopeful perspective that the majority of Congressmen are honorable.  With this is mind I would like to give the leader of one of our country&#039;s three branches of government the benefit of the doubt (albeit a short leash considering the vulnerability of the young pages).  Is it simply possible that to force Foley to resign any earlier than now would have been solely based on the relatively tame emails?  To do that in this day and age would have surely been to the voice &quot;that the Republicans are intolerant&quot; - and &quot;bashing a man for being a homosexual&quot; was &quot;just unbelievable&quot; (with an elitist intellectually superior tone).  if this is reasonable to consider than I think too many people aren&#039;t thinking this out very well.  We really need to rise above reactionary conjecture and wait for more facts to be revealed.  In any case Mr. Hastert isn&#039;t exactly an inspiring leader to me,  he may be a good middleman/broker but I hope when he is replaced it is by someone who can be articulate and passionately lead his party in its role in Congress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to take the hopeful perspective that the majority of Congressmen are honorable.  With this is mind I would like to give the leader of one of our country&#8217;s three branches of government the benefit of the doubt (albeit a short leash considering the vulnerability of the young pages).  Is it simply possible that to force Foley to resign any earlier than now would have been solely based on the relatively tame emails?  To do that in this day and age would have surely been to the voice &#8220;that the Republicans are intolerant&#8221; &#8211; and &#8220;bashing a man for being a homosexual&#8221; was &#8220;just unbelievable&#8221; (with an elitist intellectually superior tone).  if this is reasonable to consider than I think too many people aren&#8217;t thinking this out very well.  We really need to rise above reactionary conjecture and wait for more facts to be revealed.  In any case Mr. Hastert isn&#8217;t exactly an inspiring leader to me,  he may be a good middleman/broker but I hope when he is replaced it is by someone who can be articulate and passionately lead his party in its role in Congress.</p>
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