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I never said it was COMMON occurance.

I said those events USUALLY happen in the south in impoverished(higher crime) white neighborhoods (victim of non-cop violence). And as a whole its statistically small (as per your link)

I so appreciate the level of discourse that you bring to the table. You are one of the few folks that seems to truly wish to have a dialogue.

I merely wanted statistical evidence that it is a “common occurence” that blacks are shot at in white neighborhoods. That is far different from an implication that it NEVER happens.

For the record. I think we are having a miscommunication. No one says that blacks or latinos don’t shoot, harass, beat up whites in their neighbors. But you and walt seem to imply that a black person has NEVER been shot, harassed, beaten up, in a white neighborhood. I’m telling you it occurs, usually happens in a poor white neighboorhood (if a cop didn’t do the shooting). And its not highly publicized (frankly if its not sensational enough. -Person is some kind of KKK, Neo Nazi, or a cop)

By your own link black on white crime was at 6 percent in 2004 and White on black crime is 3 percent. Black on white is more frequent,double, but both crimes are relatively low compared to white on white crime, and black on black crime.

Do I need to google it. Or do I have to go to the library and search through ten years of articles. Does it have to be a death by shooting or can it be someone that has gotten beat up? Because I found examples at google of black people being killed, and beat up, but not necessarily shot at, in white neighborhoods. However being in Kentucky, North carolina, South Carolina and Florida. We knew (or I was informed) in which white neighboors NOT to get into.

I live in Baltimore. Being white, there are a few neighbourhoods where I would not be welcome, and a few where I’d be lucky to make it out alive. This has to be the most segregated city I’ve ever lived in — not segregated by race, but by socio-economic status. When we see a ’stranger’ in our neighbourhood, he isn’t identified as such by his race — but by the way he behaves and looks.

Just about everything I read above is about what goes on in the boiling kettle of ethnicity. Any person who lives in a cauldron of constant trouble in this country has the power to move to a better place.

When the dust bowl overtook the already impoverished farmers in the 1930’s, they packed out for other places.

I could list a bazillion “neighborhoods” in the USA that I don’t want to go near day or night. If I lived in one, it wouldn’t take long to figure out what my main problem was.

Isn’t it passing strange that the only people of different ethnic background who move into these seething areas are risk takers who open convenience stores, small eateries, motels and liquor stores?

My city (in the south) has some rough neighborhoods. No one in this town needs to worry about being respected in any restaurant, theater, ice rink, etc. if they are courteous and clean mouthed. However, the fire department won’t go into some neighborhoods without police protection. And the problems the kids from these neighborhoods drag into the schools slows the whole system down to a crawl.

No, I don’t live in such a neighborhood, as doing so would be hazardous to the health of my family. I don’t know how things work in the south, but on the Left coast, whites and blacks are a minority to the Mexicans. They have to stay out of many neighborhoods in LA and Orange County or risk being chased/beaten/shot at. I’ve had this happen to me personally, and I don’t dress like a gangster. Moreover, Blacks aren’t the victim of white on black crimes out here – there the victims of Mexican on black crimes, as Mexicans start demographically edging them out of their neighborhoods. This, of cours, always gets glazed over by Mayor Antonio MEChALaRaza and the news media. Blacks often retaliate, but the first thing the news media and mayor say is “This was not racially motivated,” which, of course means that it was.

In Baltimore and some other areas of Maryland, I know of areas where if you are Black you are going to get called names and physically harassed.

There have been publicized incidents in NY and Boston where it has occured and less publicized (meaning locally) areas in southern areas.

So it has to do with economic level and someone recognized as “not belonging” rather than the color of the person specifically? Color is a pretty recognizable feature – in my neighborhood(very small, pretty rural), a black would stand out and easily be recognized as “not belonging”. We _do_ have one mixed racial family, and we “know” them(even if not personally), and know that they belong here. But they do stand out. In certain neighborhoods, I’m sure the reverse is true – you note that someone is a stranger and wonder what their “business” in the neighborhood is. What you’re saying is that the same phenomenon occuring within certain economic cultures brings out weapons instead of watchfulness. I think I question the reality of this – that is, of actual shootings for no reason other than presence in a “wrong” neighborhood. Not that weapons might not be at the ready – just the actual shooting. Gangs tend to exist in certain economic levels and tend to be area specific … would you say that this is the operating factor rather than your average everyday Joe, regardless of the color/economic factors?
It may not be logical, but I mentally place this in a different category….

that occurances usually happens in impoverished white neighborhoods, most often in the south. If a black person, of any stature, were to be walking through there they would suffer being racially harassed, attacked, shot at, and in some cases murdered by weapon or an attack. In some areas a black nor white person can walk through a latino community without distress. On both sides there are places other people are seen as unwelcomed.

If a white person walked through a affluent, or well off, black neighborhood they more than likely wouldn’t be bothered or even cared about.

Hmmm. So you live in an area where it’s possible/likely that a black who is simply walking through a neighborhood that is primarily white is shot as a frequent occurence? Now, picked up and/or questioned, I understand, but … shot at …?

it also seems that the frequent Mexican/black race crimes here get sanitized by the government and media.

I meant ‘Mexican on black/ black on Mexican race crimes’ get sanitized by the media.

I was wondering about this over the use of “nigger” in the military in the 80s, when I never heard of word used once – despite having two black roommates and eating with dozens if not hundreds of blacks every day – who were somewhat screened by being able to enlist. Of course different services may have been different.