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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/10/11/hit-us-over-the-head-with-a-hammer/comment-page-1/#comment-78349</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 04:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup.  Been there, seen it, got the thin envelope.

Way back when, after leaving the military -- during which I had *trained* with the NY HRT (Hostage Rescue Team) and did many of the things that agents do in training, I&#039;d applied to the FBI, the Secret Service and a raft of other law enforcement and counterintel agencies. 

Ultimately I was accepted by the Foreign Services&#039; DSS (but opted for law school instead), but not before being turned down by all the rest.  In almost every case, the SAIC (special agent in charge -- of the interview at least) would put his hand on my shoulder and sadly saw, &#039;sorry son, if you were a minority or a female we could hire you in a heartbeat.&#039; 

It wasn&#039;t just civilian government that was doing this http://www.adversity.net/fedagency_news.htm, it was being ram-rodded through the military (see  e.g. Kara Hultgren).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup.  Been there, seen it, got the thin envelope.</p>
<p>Way back when, after leaving the military &#8212; during which I had *trained* with the NY HRT (Hostage Rescue Team) and did many of the things that agents do in training, I&#8217;d applied to the FBI, the Secret Service and a raft of other law enforcement and counterintel agencies. </p>
<p>Ultimately I was accepted by the Foreign Services&#8217; DSS (but opted for law school instead), but not before being turned down by all the rest.  In almost every case, the SAIC (special agent in charge &#8212; of the interview at least) would put his hand on my shoulder and sadly saw, &#8216;sorry son, if you were a minority or a female we could hire you in a heartbeat.&#8217; </p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t just civilian government that was doing this <a href="http://www.adversity.net/fedagency_news.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.adversity.net/fedagency_news.htm</a>, it was being ram-rodded through the military (see  e.g. Kara Hultgren).</p>
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		<title>By: JohnD</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 12:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erratum:

I meant to type, of course, &#039;publicly&#039;, not &#039;pubicly&#039;

Although in the world of politics, both have proved to capture the lower-mindset. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erratum:</p>
<p>I meant to type, of course, &#8216;publicly&#8217;, not &#8216;pubicly&#8217;</p>
<p>Although in the world of politics, both have proved to capture the lower-mindset. <img src='http://lashawnbarber.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: JohnD</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/10/11/hit-us-over-the-head-with-a-hammer/comment-page-1/#comment-78338</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 11:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#47 &quot;Do you liberals never tire of race-baiting?&quot;

Tantor, it would appear that America has entered a new, defining era in race-politics/race-baiting?

1: Complaining that NON-WHITES are unfairly discriminated against is automatically labelled a &#039;liberal&#039; position, and

2: Complaining that &#039;WHITES&#039; are unfairly discriminated against is automatically labelled a &#039;conservative&#039; position.

Considering the subtle degrees and variations of skin-colour, don&#039;t any of us find it odd that we are scanning a carefully selected webpage for evidence of more than (??%) caucasian skin?

For what? To prove that the evil &#039;liberals&#039; are ruining the world with &#039;political correctness&#039;?

Why not grab one of those non-white employees of the FBI, drag them into the media spotlight, and then accuse them pubicly of being a politically correct pawn of the left, without real world &#039;white&#039; merit?

Because that is exactly what is being done here. 

Shade, for instance, matter-of factly linked to a load of &#039;white&#039; people&#039;s pics on the FBI website.

 And here&#039;s the rub; No-one can &#039;see&#039; those white people, because we are all so fixated on the &#039;evil liberal minority-skinned pawns&#039; on the linked page.

No, no race-baiting here, move along.  Nothing to see.  The right and the loony-right never race-bait.  Nope, never.  Anyone want to buy the Panama Canal?  I have a deal on this month?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#47 &#8220;Do you liberals never tire of race-baiting?&#8221;</p>
<p>Tantor, it would appear that America has entered a new, defining era in race-politics/race-baiting?</p>
<p>1: Complaining that NON-WHITES are unfairly discriminated against is automatically labelled a &#8216;liberal&#8217; position, and</p>
<p>2: Complaining that &#8216;WHITES&#8217; are unfairly discriminated against is automatically labelled a &#8216;conservative&#8217; position.</p>
<p>Considering the subtle degrees and variations of skin-colour, don&#8217;t any of us find it odd that we are scanning a carefully selected webpage for evidence of more than (??%) caucasian skin?</p>
<p>For what? To prove that the evil &#8216;liberals&#8217; are ruining the world with &#8216;political correctness&#8217;?</p>
<p>Why not grab one of those non-white employees of the FBI, drag them into the media spotlight, and then accuse them pubicly of being a politically correct pawn of the left, without real world &#8216;white&#8217; merit?</p>
<p>Because that is exactly what is being done here. </p>
<p>Shade, for instance, matter-of factly linked to a load of &#8216;white&#8217; people&#8217;s pics on the FBI website.</p>
<p> And here&#8217;s the rub; No-one can &#8216;see&#8217; those white people, because we are all so fixated on the &#8216;evil liberal minority-skinned pawns&#8217; on the linked page.</p>
<p>No, no race-baiting here, move along.  Nothing to see.  The right and the loony-right never race-bait.  Nope, never.  Anyone want to buy the Panama Canal?  I have a deal on this month?</p>
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		<title>By: Tantor</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/10/11/hit-us-over-the-head-with-a-hammer/comment-page-1/#comment-78336</link>
		<dc:creator>Tantor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 03:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg,

You mean like over at Cosby&#039;s house or Oprah&#039;s house or professional sports or Colin Powell&#039;s place or Condoleeza&#039;s home or Vernon Jordan&#039;s or at BET?

Do you liberals never tire of race-baiting?

Tantor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg,</p>
<p>You mean like over at Cosby&#8217;s house or Oprah&#8217;s house or professional sports or Colin Powell&#8217;s place or Condoleeza&#8217;s home or Vernon Jordan&#8217;s or at BET?</p>
<p>Do you liberals never tire of race-baiting?</p>
<p>Tantor</p>
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		<title>By: greg stephenson</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/10/11/hit-us-over-the-head-with-a-hammer/comment-page-1/#comment-78334</link>
		<dc:creator>greg stephenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 02:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what if the missing quit?  Well so what.  Last I saw there was no shortage of white men.  Just look wherever there is wealth, privelege and status and you will find them slapping each other on the back and having great fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what if the missing quit?  Well so what.  Last I saw there was no shortage of white men.  Just look wherever there is wealth, privelege and status and you will find them slapping each other on the back and having great fun.</p>
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		<title>By: Annie</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/10/11/hit-us-over-the-head-with-a-hammer/comment-page-1/#comment-78318</link>
		<dc:creator>Annie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Oct 2006 02:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hostage rescue = â€œheavy lifting?â€ Well, maybe that is one way of looking at it. I donâ€™t see it that way - I think people in such jobs would have to be smart, quick at decision making, and of course very fit. Brute force alone could end up with dead hostages. But Iâ€™ve never done the job, nor been rescued from being a hostage, so maybe my perception is not accurate.

Comment by Karen â€” 10.12.06 @ 3:29 pm

maybe that&#039;s the point.  why use minorities as window dressing... but when it comes down to the nitty gritty, use white men? &#039;smart, quick at decision making, and very fit&#039;..... so where is everyone else, or are they not &#039;smart, quick at decision making and very fit&#039;?  but they are good enough for window dressing and smiles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hostage rescue = â€œheavy lifting?â€ Well, maybe that is one way of looking at it. I donâ€™t see it that way &#8211; I think people in such jobs would have to be smart, quick at decision making, and of course very fit. Brute force alone could end up with dead hostages. But Iâ€™ve never done the job, nor been rescued from being a hostage, so maybe my perception is not accurate.</p>
<p>Comment by Karen â€” 10.12.06 @ 3:29 pm</p>
<p>maybe that&#8217;s the point.  why use minorities as window dressing&#8230; but when it comes down to the nitty gritty, use white men? &#8216;smart, quick at decision making, and very fit&#8217;&#8230;.. so where is everyone else, or are they not &#8216;smart, quick at decision making and very fit&#8217;?  but they are good enough for window dressing and smiles.</p>
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		<title>By: Tantor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tantor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 22:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not just the FBI.  My corporation just made us do ethics training and I couldn&#039;t help but notice that all the unethical villains were white and all the ethical saints were minorities.  What a joke that an ethics training program that counsels against racism and sexism in the workplace is itself racist and sexist.

Evidently everything in the corporate world is being funneled through a PC filter.  It&#039;s on TV, too.  You can be sure that the white guy is going to be the dope when ever the cast is mixed.  If it&#039;s a family show, the wife is always some kind of genius while the father is a dunce who can barely tie his shoes on his own.  That&#039;s part of the reason I don&#039;t watch those shows anymore.  I wasn&#039;t being entertained.  I was being indoctrinated.

I&#039;ll be honest.  I&#039;d like to see some shows that are all white.  I&#039;d like to see some shows that are all black.  I&#039;d like to see some that are black and white mixed together.  I&#039;d like to see some that are neither black nor white but something else entirely.

What I don&#039;t want to see is the same cookie-cutter politically correct formula imposed on every friggin&#039; piece of media force-fed to me to endlessly affirm a particular point of view like I&#039;m watching TV in North Korea.

Tantor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not just the FBI.  My corporation just made us do ethics training and I couldn&#8217;t help but notice that all the unethical villains were white and all the ethical saints were minorities.  What a joke that an ethics training program that counsels against racism and sexism in the workplace is itself racist and sexist.</p>
<p>Evidently everything in the corporate world is being funneled through a PC filter.  It&#8217;s on TV, too.  You can be sure that the white guy is going to be the dope when ever the cast is mixed.  If it&#8217;s a family show, the wife is always some kind of genius while the father is a dunce who can barely tie his shoes on his own.  That&#8217;s part of the reason I don&#8217;t watch those shows anymore.  I wasn&#8217;t being entertained.  I was being indoctrinated.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be honest.  I&#8217;d like to see some shows that are all white.  I&#8217;d like to see some shows that are all black.  I&#8217;d like to see some that are black and white mixed together.  I&#8217;d like to see some that are neither black nor white but something else entirely.</p>
<p>What I don&#8217;t want to see is the same cookie-cutter politically correct formula imposed on every friggin&#8217; piece of media force-fed to me to endlessly affirm a particular point of view like I&#8217;m watching TV in North Korea.</p>
<p>Tantor</p>
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		<title>By: R.G.</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/10/11/hit-us-over-the-head-with-a-hammer/comment-page-1/#comment-78310</link>
		<dc:creator>R.G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 21:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeez you guys.  LaShawn, you should know better.  Let&#039;s not fall into the same stupid pattern of being sensitive about perceived discrimination. If they want to display seventeen pictures  of Arabs or whatever for whatever motive, who cares? Remember the sensitivity that whites didn&#039;t understand, like, I call my friends or even my brother &quot;boy&quot; sometimes in casual talk, as in, &quot;come on boy let&#039;s get goin&#039; here.&quot;  But if I said that to a black friend, I know I would get an evil look, and I might be naive enough to wonder why.  My point is, that we can&#039;t go around nitpicking peoples&#039; motive or thoughts.  Just campaign for the good things, and don&#039;t over analyze things like those pictures.  I hope the average person would look at that page and never think someone was missing. I hope we come to a day that these things are ignored.

&lt;em&gt;I can&#039;t speak for anyone else, but I wanted to point out the skin-deep &quot;diversity&quot; hypocrisy. That&#039;s what I do. Sensitivity is not the point of this post. If you&#039;ve been reading this blog for a while, that should be clear. If you&#039;re a new reader, I suggest you read several posts before commenting.  - Admin&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeez you guys.  LaShawn, you should know better.  Let&#8217;s not fall into the same stupid pattern of being sensitive about perceived discrimination. If they want to display seventeen pictures  of Arabs or whatever for whatever motive, who cares? Remember the sensitivity that whites didn&#8217;t understand, like, I call my friends or even my brother &#8220;boy&#8221; sometimes in casual talk, as in, &#8220;come on boy let&#8217;s get goin&#8217; here.&#8221;  But if I said that to a black friend, I know I would get an evil look, and I might be naive enough to wonder why.  My point is, that we can&#8217;t go around nitpicking peoples&#8217; motive or thoughts.  Just campaign for the good things, and don&#8217;t over analyze things like those pictures.  I hope the average person would look at that page and never think someone was missing. I hope we come to a day that these things are ignored.</p>
<p><em>I can&#8217;t speak for anyone else, but I wanted to point out the skin-deep &#8220;diversity&#8221; hypocrisy. That&#8217;s what I do. Sensitivity is not the point of this post. If you&#8217;ve been reading this blog for a while, that should be clear. If you&#8217;re a new reader, I suggest you read several posts before commenting.  &#8211; Admin</em></p>
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		<title>By: Jack in TX</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack in TX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 20:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LaShawn - The FBI is just one example.  Check out any major corporation&#039;s &quot;Careers&quot; page.  If you can find a white, male face, he&#039;ll be far in the background.  AT&amp;T, GE, and Verizon all fit the FBI example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LaShawn &#8211; The FBI is just one example.  Check out any major corporation&#8217;s &#8220;Careers&#8221; page.  If you can find a white, male face, he&#8217;ll be far in the background.  AT&amp;T, GE, and Verizon all fit the FBI example.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 19:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s just the most egregious example of the &quot;diversity&quot; image industry. Insurance brochures, college bookstores, you name it...plastered with photos that convey absolutely no content except &quot;diversity.&quot; Few people realize how anti-white the practice is (even though whites are probably the main orchestrators). 

The country was CREATED by white Europeans - along with a black minority. Our culture is Euro-American - and all of us who are products of that culture should want it to remain so. Now, we have decided as a society that the white majority has to be diminished and destroyed to make way for the new order. 

Once you realize this, it becomes painful to see these images on a daily basis....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s just the most egregious example of the &#8220;diversity&#8221; image industry. Insurance brochures, college bookstores, you name it&#8230;plastered with photos that convey absolutely no content except &#8220;diversity.&#8221; Few people realize how anti-white the practice is (even though whites are probably the main orchestrators). </p>
<p>The country was CREATED by white Europeans &#8211; along with a black minority. Our culture is Euro-American &#8211; and all of us who are products of that culture should want it to remain so. Now, we have decided as a society that the white majority has to be diminished and destroyed to make way for the new order. </p>
<p>Once you realize this, it becomes painful to see these images on a daily basis&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 11:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish I could edit my comment. LaShawn, I didn&#039;t mean your point didn&#039;t make good sense already, just that I myself understood it more as I thought about it in different ways.  sorry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I could edit my comment. LaShawn, I didn&#8217;t mean your point didn&#8217;t make good sense already, just that I myself understood it more as I thought about it in different ways.  sorry</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 19:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hostage rescue = &quot;heavy lifting?&quot;   Well, maybe that is one way of looking at it.  I don&#039;t see it that way - I think people in such jobs would have to be smart, quick at decision making, and of course very fit.  Brute force alone could end up with dead hostages. But I&#039;ve never done the job, nor been rescued from being a hostage, so maybe my perception is not accurate.

My comment was really more directed to some other comments, and I did read the post, and did follow the links.   

As I pondered the matter, for a while I *was* going to say that I didn&#039;t think it mattered, who was on the front page, but then started thinking of other things, like college brochures or church leaflets, and I realized that I&#039;d find it weird if a regular state college, for example, had four photos on the front with none of them white (if the student body had a majority of white people), even though whites were featured inside,  or a church showed only &quot;minorities&quot; on its leaflet front, if the church was mostly white or just really mixed, even if whites were in photos on the inside.  What is on the front does matter, especially when you are emphasizing one thing and trying to de-emphasize another.  Your point made more sense to me as I put the same idea into different contexts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hostage rescue = &#8220;heavy lifting?&#8221;   Well, maybe that is one way of looking at it.  I don&#8217;t see it that way &#8211; I think people in such jobs would have to be smart, quick at decision making, and of course very fit.  Brute force alone could end up with dead hostages. But I&#8217;ve never done the job, nor been rescued from being a hostage, so maybe my perception is not accurate.</p>
<p>My comment was really more directed to some other comments, and I did read the post, and did follow the links.   </p>
<p>As I pondered the matter, for a while I *was* going to say that I didn&#8217;t think it mattered, who was on the front page, but then started thinking of other things, like college brochures or church leaflets, and I realized that I&#8217;d find it weird if a regular state college, for example, had four photos on the front with none of them white (if the student body had a majority of white people), even though whites were featured inside,  or a church showed only &#8220;minorities&#8221; on its leaflet front, if the church was mostly white or just really mixed, even if whites were in photos on the inside.  What is on the front does matter, especially when you are emphasizing one thing and trying to de-emphasize another.  Your point made more sense to me as I put the same idea into different contexts.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 16:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Black Labs rule! I used to bring my Lab to work and he would do nothing all day, just like any other government worker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Black Labs rule! I used to bring my Lab to work and he would do nothing all day, just like any other government worker.</p>
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		<title>By: Shade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 15:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MikeM said
&lt;i&gt;No, Carol, she counts as &lt;b&gt;disabled&lt;/b&gt; and female. Whatâ€™s missing is white men. I donâ€™t â€œsee anyone like meâ€, so according to liberal dogma, the FBI must not want anyone like me.&lt;/i&gt;

This sounds as if you would not consider a disabled white man as &quot;someone like you&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MikeM said<br />
<i>No, Carol, she counts as <b>disabled</b> and female. Whatâ€™s missing is white men. I donâ€™t â€œsee anyone like meâ€, so according to liberal dogma, the FBI must not want anyone like me.</i></p>
<p>This sounds as if you would not consider a disabled white man as &#8220;someone like you&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: RedBeard</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/10/11/hit-us-over-the-head-with-a-hammer/comment-page-1/#comment-78201</link>
		<dc:creator>RedBeard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 15:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the issue is not serious, but rather simply silly.  Silly that those responsible for that recruiting page felt the need to ride the PC diversity bus right over the cliff.  ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the issue is not serious, but rather simply silly.  Silly that those responsible for that recruiting page felt the need to ride the PC diversity bus right over the cliff.  <img src='http://lashawnbarber.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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