Comments on: Update on the Porous Border Situation

By: JohnD

JohnD — Sun, 26 Nov 2006 11:34:35 +0000

#19

“I expect â€œdeath squadâ€ type violence, and the tipping point will be when average americans see that this is the only solution that works.”

I expect in order for you to enjoy murdering the ‘shipped poor’, that you will have to force this ‘tipping point/solution yourself. Why? Because even the most vocal paleoconservative nationalists and white-pride advocates seem to lack the ‘stomach’ for death squads.

So, may I ask,who will form a death squad to do this ‘violence’ that you claim is fundamental to America’s foundation and ongoing success?

By: killerwhale

killerwhale — Fri, 24 Nov 2006 19:31:13 +0000

What it all boils down to is this: We are in the middle of a slow motion type of economic warfare. Kinda like the death of a thousand cuts. The Mexican government is well aware of what they are doing. What a deal, ship all the poor who can walk, because the foolish gringos are willing to take care of them. One of things that I know for certain is that America was formed on the principle of applied physical violence, and that is what this situation requires before the mexicans will leave. If enough are terrorized, then they will go. Anyone who doesn’t understand this clearly hasn’t read about our history. I expect “death squad” type violence, and the tipping point will be when average americans see that this is the only solution that works.

By: texelco

texelco — Fri, 24 Nov 2006 13:09:38 +0000

i recently retired from the staffing industry. I can tell you with absolute certainty that we need this labor force. Whites routinely turned down jobs that Hispanics did not flinch at taking. They would then proceed to out work their counterparts. Not in all cases certainly but in most.The system for checking ID’s is spotty. You can call Soc Sec and confirm certain things but a determined worker will find a way. This debate is sadly much like the war in Iraq. We have come to a point and there is no going back. We have to arrive at realistic solutions
If you don’t like that they use our social services without paying then tax them. If you want to dispose of the criminal element within their community then you have to establish who is in that community. Realism is paramount in this debate.
Just remember, you like cheap stuff.

By: Watcher of Weasels

Watcher of Weasels — Fri, 24 Nov 2006 08:17:15 +0000

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By: BIRDZILLA

BIRDZILLA — Thu, 23 Nov 2006 15:17:40 +0000

The federal goverment is not going to halt illegal imagration becuase its all the unscruploius plans to create the NORTH AMERICAN UNION. Its time to oppose the NORTH AMERICAN UNION and GET OURSELVES OUT OF THE UN AND DRIVE OUT THE CFR

By: Watcher of Weasels

Watcher of Weasels — Wed, 22 Nov 2006 07:30:01 +0000

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By: ech

ech — Tue, 21 Nov 2006 17:08:47 +0000

About construction jobs being filled by illegals:
>>How many legal welfare recipients could fill those positions?

I checked some numbers at the Federal Reserve site. Houston unemployment is about 4.7%. Taking the stats there on construction employment in the state (629k jobs of 10150k jobs in the state), the number of unemployed is about 80% of the construction jobs in the Houston area. This probably understates the number of construction jobs in Houston, which is still in a building boom. So, it would take every unemployed person in Houston to fill just the construction jobs of illegals.

>>On point number 2, just because there isnâ€™t a system now doesnâ€™t mean that one canâ€™t be developed.

True, never said that it couldn’t, but without one now, you can’t be sure anyone you hire is legal – I’ve seen the fake IDs out there and they look just as good as real ones. Development of a new ID system is part of what the president and the Hutchison/Pence plan have called for. But much of the rhetoric about the problem is only focused on two aspects – closing the border and throwing the rascals out.

By: Pajamas Media

Pajamas Media — Tue, 21 Nov 2006 12:41:11 +0000

Border Battles

A list of legal measures taken by small-town governments against illegal immigration . (La Shawn Barber)

By: Glamchild

Glamchild — Mon, 20 Nov 2006 23:36:06 +0000

What jobs are they doing that are sooo important?

I look around and see them either carrying a bottle of Windex, or irritating me with their loud leaf blowers.

Do we really need leaf blowers in society? And, I can do my own Windex.

I would challenge the idea that these are essential jobs.

By: L. Tate

L. Tate — Mon, 20 Nov 2006 23:30:40 +0000

So, will the town of Pahrump have to change its name, now, because of the new ‘English only ordinance’?
Pahrump, (pronounced: pa-rump) is a Paiute Indian language word roughly meaning ‘Big water mouth’, (Pahrump, NV, about 75 miles west/northwest of las Vegas, NV, sits atop one of the largest water aquifers in the USA.

By: D-Day

D-Day — Mon, 20 Nov 2006 20:13:26 +0000

Please don’t interpret Hayworth’s defeat as a referendum on immigration. His opponent, Harry Mitchell, spent the entire campaign attacking Hayworth on immigration from the right. Four anti-illegal immigration propositions on the same ballot passed.

By: FL Mom

FL Mom — Mon, 20 Nov 2006 18:29:09 +0000

>>”There arenâ€™t enough unemployed in the area to fill those jobs, so it would dramatically hurt the economy.”

Are we sure about that? (not trying to accuse; just thinking aloud; I don’t know the statistics) How many legal welfare recipients could fill those positions? I agree there might be a temporary sting, but I think it would stabilize, and the long term benefits would far outweigh the initial jolt.

Regarding your first point of small businesses not having the same resources as big ones, that’s exactly where a smart & useful gov’t could help enforcement by subsidizing the cost of those background checks and ID verifications. I generally dislike subsidies that typically waste our money, but I can support ones that actually benefit citizens and work toward our security as a nation.

On point number 2, just because there isn’t a system now doesn’t mean that one can’t be developed.

We can’t all just say, “Well, enforcing the laws already on our books could cause some temporary problems so let’s give up.”

By: ech

ech — Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:51:27 +0000

The problem with enforcing the ban on hiring illegals is twofold:
– first, illegals tend to work for small businesses. Most can’t pass the background checks a major employer’s HR department would have (i.e. a Fortune 500 company). They are clustered in cash/day labor oriented companies (food service, construction), often hidden as subcontractors of subcontractors. There are so many of these places that we can’t afford to police them all directly. You would need to have a way to track employment. This leads us to …
– second, there is no way to quickly check the ID of someone in a day labor type job and see if they have citizenship or a work visa. This is one of the areas that the enforcement types tend to ignore in their debate, concentrating only on building the fence. (NB: the fence is a good idea. It is, to borrow a math phrase, necessary but not sufficient to attack the problem.)

Look, we can’t deport all the illegals here without putting ahuge shock on the economies of the border states. For example, it is estimated that 80% of the construction labor in Houston, where I live, is made up of illegals and there are a lot of them doing cleanup and rebuilding in New Orleans. There aren’t enough unemployed in the area to fill those jobs, so it would dramatically hurt the economy.

I think that the Hutchison/Pence plan of border control followed by hiring from centers outside the US would be the best compromise I’ve seen.

By: Chuck

Chuck — Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:13:50 +0000

Eyesontheborder.org is purchasing airplanes for Texas border sheriffs to use in patrolling.

Funding is all via private citizens, since our elected officials are simply not doing the job.

By: Kim

Kim — Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:01:07 +0000

“Cheap labor” is indeed a misnomer. In addition to the reasons given by Belle, I must point out the myth that illegals are paid very little. In my personal experience, they are not. When I lived in a certain western state, I worked as a waitress in a restaurant that hired many illegals from all over the world, including the South Pacific and Europe. They were paid, in cash, exactly what all the rest of us were paid. The difference is that we were on the books, and had income and payroll taxes taken out of our checks. They did not, and the employer profited by not having to pay his share of social security and medicare taxes, or unemployment and worker’s comp insurance on those employees. The ones who got the rotten end of the deal were the legal workers.