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2:26 p.m.: News of a baby’s birth is greatly exaggerated. The stripper-accuser is still pregnant. Not due until February. She was knocked up after the alleged gang-rape.
Update III (12/15): Last night, FOX News reported that the stripper-accuser had a baby recently. Independent Conservative has linked to video and said yesterday was “exactly 9 months to the day of that early morning of March 14, when the accuser left the Duke lacrosse players’ house and claimed she was raped.”
She was not pregnant the night of the party.
Poor kid. A stripper and a liar for a mother, and now he’s/she’s got to play, “Who’s my daddy?”
There’s a hearing today. If the defense motions succeed…
Update II (12/14): Bill Anderson has a written a more in-depth comparison of the Duke and Scottsboro cases.
Update (12/13 @ 4:27 p.m.): It gets nastier and nastier. The results of the stripper-accuser’s DNA tests showed “genetic material from several males,” Duke lacrosse players not included. Mike Nifong knew and didn’t tell the defense. We’ve known for months that DNA matched a “boyfriend.” I guess she’s got more than one. 
Commenter Seahawk posted a link to this article.
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Walter Jones, a U.S. congressman from North Carolina, has asked the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) to investigate Durham County district attorney Mike Nifong for violating the civil rights of Collin Finnerty, Reade Seligmann, and David Evans, three men indicted on comically bogus gang-rape charges. (Source)
Last March, a stripper accused Duke lacrosse players (three? four? five?) of raping and sodomizing her for 30 minutes in a bathroom at a house party. Despite the absence of evidence that a rape occurred that night or occurred in that location or that DNA found in the victim belonged to her “boyfriend” and not to any indicted lacrosse player, Nifong plowed ahead with the case. Two players have alibis, yet Nifong sent the case to the grand jury anyway. Even left-leaning “60 Minutes” thought the case was laughable.
If DOJ opens an investigation, which I’m praying it will do, first on the list will be the photo ID process. In violation of standard procedures, the photo ID array did not include photos of people not associated with the so-called crime. The stripper-accuser looked at photos of white Duke lacrosse players and pointed to random men she wanted to frame for the alleged gang-rape.
My opinion of this case, especially of the stripper-accuser, is well-documented (30 posts and counting). In fact, I’m scheduled to be interviewed this afternoon for a story about the case, so hopefully, my views will be on national record. What’s happening in Durham is akin to what happened 75 years ago to the “Scottsboro Boys.” No matter how much hate e-mail I get, I’ll continue comparing the two cases.
More on Congressman Jones’s request and other topics at Durham-in-Wonderland, Crystal Mess, LieStoppers…
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An article at the DOJ site says :
“Civil rights ultimately are about how we live together as human beings, and about respecting each others’ inherent dignity, despite coming from a range of backgrounds with diverse faiths and traditions.”
Alas, the defendants in this case can only be considered as innocent as a Jew in nazi Germany could have been considered innocent.
A Jew was presumed by the nazi world view to have inherited a corrupt nature; and no matter how much a Jew might have done for Germany (served with distinction in the First World War, or won a Nobel Prize), he was still a Jew, and by the parameters of the nazi world view, had thereby to be the bearer of a corrupted nature, and thus guilty.
In our present culture young white males (especially athletes) are presumed to have corrupt natures, or to be the inheritors of a corrupted past which forever cripples their moral sense.
Hence the defendants here cannot be innocent, or else there are exceptions to the current world view, which renders it invalid. And rather than have that happen, there are those who will insist that the defendants in this case have to be considered as guilty.
Was there a rape? Manifestly no. Are the defendants from the wrong social class? Manifestly yes.
Hence, the case must go on.
From Judge Horton’s instructions to the Scottsboro jury :
“You are not trying whether or not the defendant is white or black– you are not trying that question; you are trying whether or not this defendant forcibly ravished a woman.
“You are not trying lawyers, you are not trying State lines. You are here at home as jurors–a jury of citizens under oath sitting in the jury box taking the evidence and considering it, leaving out any outside influences.
“We are a white race and a Negro race here together–we are here to live together–our interests are together. The world at this time and in many lands is showing intolerance and hate. It seems sometimes that love has almost deserted the human bosom. It seems that only hate has taken its place. It is only for a time gentlemen, because it is the great things in life, God’s great principles, matters of eternal right, that alone live. Wrong dies and truth forever lasts, and we should have faith in that.”
1) “In our present culture young white males (especially athletes) are presumed to have corrupt natures, or to be the inheritors of a corrupted past which forever cripples their moral sense.” Seahawk, thanks for pointing out what black males, especially athletes have been going through for years now. Ever heard of the Kobe Bryant rape case? Its a problem for all races of males, not just white ones.
I agree with Lashawn that this case is akin to what happened in the Scottsboro Boys case.
“I agree with Lashawn that this case is akin to what happened in the Scottsboro Boys case.:
Exactly. The case turned there on the issue of whether a white woman would ever willingly consent to having sexual relations with a black man. Since the entire world view of the South depended upon that receiving a strong negative answer, the Scottsboro defendants had to be convicted–or otherwise the entire world-view of the South and its concepts about the place of the two races would have been seen to the artificial construct that it was.
And better a conviction, than that.
“Ever heard of the Kobe Bryant rape case?”
Yep. And the fact that Kobe still felt he had to make a payoff to his accuser, even though he was innocent, makes a statement about the sorry state of our legal system, and about public stereotypes and presumptions of guilt.
I hope that a [presumably] saner and less invested-in-the-lies head will move quickly to exonerate these three young men and permit them to move forward with their lives, albeit tarnished forever – and who do they talk to about THAT!
I also hope that this investigation moves forward with a great deal more dispatch and obfuscation than have the rest of the various Federal investigations of late (the Plamegate fiasco comes to mind).
Justice delayed is justice denied and these young men have been through sufficient hell to last several lifetimes!
I served with Walter in the NC House. He was a Democrat back then, he changed parties to keep his dad’s seat. His dad was a Jessecrat, as in Helms, and served in the US House forever. Walter is not a risk taker. I think he knows something and is getting some free publicity now, before the S*** hits the fan. I still believe Nifungu is going to be charged by the NC Bar with unethical conduct, BEFORE Christmas. That would explain Walter’s sudden indignation. At any rate, it keeps the heat on Nifungu, which is good.
I think Tatercon is in Walter’s district.
Oh, and La Shawn, MERRY CHRISTMAS. LOVE YA KEMP
#1 Seahawk concludes: “Hence, the case must go on.”
Must “go on” where? To trial? To what end? Are attitudes going to be changed? Does Durham need a Rodney King verdict moment?
Nifong was reelected, so he is a political winner. But there are “due process” concerns here. If he shopped “due process” for political gain, he has dumped himself into a completely separate frying pan from the Duke Lacrosse/Rape Case.
I have no quarrel with bringing the case to trial. What more damage can he do to these boys and their families? The “system” even accommodates his boneheaded determination to make an ass of himself. But when the farce has been played out and the tale has been told, the victims deserve Nifong’s career and more.
Nifong chose the Faustian route to the polls, now it is time for him to pay up.
Walter “freedom fries” Jones — now turned against the lie-infested Bush war, I really respect him for that, he stands up for truth.
Now he’s stepping up to support those Duke kids..
I really like this guy
Great move…
La Shawn,
They messed with the DNA! The government invented a way to alter your DNA! (sarcasm off).
I hope Nifong is exposed as the fraud, race-baiter that he is, all in the name of an election. The people of Durham should be ashamed of themselves for electing that moron.
Coming fast and furious now :
Motion by the defense counsel to dismiss (forcing Nifong to demonstrate in court that there is indeed sufficient evidence for his case to go on);
Motion by defense counsel revealing that there was DNA found from several men inside and on the AV, but none of it was from the lacrosse players (indicating she had sex with several men prior to the party–but none of them lacrosse players). The DNA lab, however, somehow ‘neglected’ to turn this exculpatory evidence over. . .
What’s next?
Do you have a link/source for that DNA info? – Admin
Motion to dismiss :
LINK
Just reported on FoxNews:
Defense counsel are submitting a joint motion to dismiss. ‘Bout F’ing time! Mikey’s gotta lay bare his proof and show that the allegations set forth in the pleadings are real and may be sustained, beyond a reasonable doubt, upon a trial of the claims.
Motion for DNA results :
http://www.newsobserver.com/100/story/521017.html
A private laboratory hired by the prosecution in the Duke lacrosse case failed to report that it found DNA from multiple males in the accuser’s body and underwear, according to a defense motion filed today.
The lab, DNA Security of Burlington, found that the DNA did not match the three defendants, their lacrosse teammates or anyone else who submitted their DNA to police, including the accuser’s boyfriend.
(snip)
Citing the state’s open-file discovery law and the U.S. Supreme Court’s requirement for prosecutors to hand over all helpful evidence to the defense, the defense lawyers asked the judge to order Nifong and the lab to provide copies of all laboratory analyses, including those performed after May 12.
While watching Greta Van Susterens’s show last evening I was apalled at Ted Williams’ (aided by Bernie Grimm) strong objection to Congressman Jones’ request for federal intervention in the Duke Lacrosse Rape Hoax case. It appeared Williams was objecting to the request on the basis the accused were rich, white males who had garnered a lot of publicity for their defense, and if there were to be federal intervention in a case like this it should be only on behalf of poor, black defendants. (Unfortunately I am unable to find a transcript for the show for his precise wording.)
It caught my attention not only because this was the first MSM broadcast about the Jones letter, but also because William’s objection also seems to echo what I’ve read from pro-Nifong supporters on various blog comments and forums. Dave Evans, Collin Finnerty and Reade Seligmann are strongly resented by the Nifong supporters, partly because of the media attention they’ve received and that cases involving poor, black defendants are under-publicized and ignored.
Publicity in this case was not generated after-the-fact via a coordinated PR campaign. The Duke players, of course, did not seek this publicity. First, in the early days of the case prior to indictment, DA Nifong gave a documented 70-plus media interviews. Local potbangers protested and attempted public theater. The MSM jumped all over a story that seemed to fit their prejudices and need to be seen as purveyors of social justice. Since the initial period in which events seemed to go against Evans, Finnerty and Seligmann, any developments in the case have been reported and repeated by bloggers and commenters.
From a point of view of advancing social progress and improving our criminal justice system for all, or just being logical, I don’t get Williams’ objection. If people of any color want transparency, fairness and accountability in our justice system then shouldn’t we collectively take advantage of this opportunity to achieve our goal? Why should we wait for the stars to align in favor of some other future, potentially politically correct miscarriage of justice to appear? Who knows how many other unpublicized victims, black or white, will be crushed by rogue prosecutors in a system that doesn’t provide enough checks and balances to keep the innocent safe from malicious actors?
When will people like Ted Williams see this problem hurts people of all colors, and that now is a truly favorable time to become colorblind in pursuit of a solution we will all benefit from?
Who is Ted Williams?
Ted Williams, a regular member of Greta’s panels of legal experts, is an attorney for the defense based in Washington DC. He’s black.
EEEWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!
We’ve known for months that DNA matched a “boyfriend.†I guess she’s got more than one.
Heh. Very well understated.
I wonder how many other white and black folks have been treated this way?
Too many. – Admin
Question: while Nifong might have some kind of prosecutorial immunity, what is the status of the DNA lab?
Kempx, Jones isn’t in our district down here — we’ve got relatively conservative Dem. Mike McIntyre out of Lumberton covering for us inside the Beltway.
And La Shawn, last I heard, Ted Williams was still a cryogenically frozen ex-Red Sox’r who was the last to bat above .400 for a season … Dunno about the one who’s been on Greta’s show. Get past 50, you’re in the sack by the time she comes on…..
The DA must go.
Period.
Ted Williams in this case is a made for TV lawyer or something in that line. How he became a FOX expert is beyond me. He’s so racist he can’t hide it. It the races were reversed in the Duke Rape case he would automatically be on the other side. She’s black, she’s telling the truth. They’re white, they’re lying. Typical miscarriage of justice or misuse of the justice system to get elected. Isn’t that the accepted way of the dimmi party these days. Can’t win, use the court system and pet judges.
Nifong was famously going around in May saying “absence of DNA evidence” does not prove a rape didn’t happen — and misleadingly saying testing did not factor into many rape convictions (meaning testing isn’t done when both parties agree sex happened).
I would be interested in:
1. A timeline – What was known, what was concealed by Nifong, what was said to press and to court officials that did not match the testimonies or medical records.
2. Revisiting the Grand Jury if the case is tossed to learn, as part of a misconduct investigation or lawsuit – exactly what info and evidence the prosecutor kept from the Judge and jury…And, if what was kept from them matches canons of ethics the NC bar and the presiding judges expectations.
I am beginning to believe in Santa Claus. Remember I’ve been saying that I had heard that Nifungu was going to be charged for misconduct by the NC Bar, before Christmas? Well, what if the motion to dismiss is accepted on Friday, that would leave the Bar no obstacles in proceeding against Nifungu. Do you think my boys know something we don’t, like this case is over. Is Karl Rove behind this?? Let’s all say a prayer for Friday’s hearing.
We need to be fair to Ted Williams. While he did oppose Federal intervention at this time and thus opposed Congressman Jones’s letter requesting same, in the second half of Greta’s show he clearly stated that if what we’re all hearing is true then he believes Nifong has committed misconduct and should be penalized. I think it’s fair to argue whether or not the Feds should get involved at this time (for the record, I think they can and should), so to label Williams’s argument as based on the race of the defendants is unfair. He is not against investigation of Nifong, he just thinks the Feds should not do it (or at least that the Feds should not do it NOW).
Maybe Williams would have a different take on it if the defendants here were black, but that’s not a conclusion that I can reach based on what I’ve heard Williams say so far.
LaShawn,
Great work on this subject. I recently wrote an article that compares the Duke and Scottsboro cases. One point I make is this: If the “believe the woman” syndrome is the only justification for these charges, and if the defenders of the accuser are saying we MUST believe the AV, then they also would have to believe Victoria Price when she insisted that the Scottsboro Boys raped her. Here is the link to the piece I wrote:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/anderson/anderson156.html
Thanks for stopping by, Bill. I’ve followed your work on the subject. Thanks for the link.
And another hardball from the defense :
Motion to suppress in-court ID
http://www.newsobserver.com/100/story/521389.html
DURHAM – Defense lawyers asked a judge today to block the accuser in the Duke University lacrosse case from identifying her alleged attackers in court at trial.
If they succeed, the lawyers for three indicted former lacrosse players would undermine the foundation of District Attorney Mike Nifong’s case and give the defense a chance to have the charges dismissed before trial. The request came in a motion in Durham County Superior Court that also asks the judge to throw out the photographic lineup procedure that became the basis for the state’s rape case.
Seahawk,
I think the LONG knives are coming out. Oh, boy a good cut’en is a coming. Guess we’ll see all the national press in Durham Friday, and it is a slow news cycle so it will probably lead.
Shewt, Kempx, I’d pay admission to see Joe Cheshire and Wade Smith with long knives drawn tomorrow…. Too bad I’ve gotta be in Superior Court in Brunswick County at 9:30 am. Civil stuff. Life goes on in the world of mundane civil motions…..
T’Con
The Knives ARE out!!!
The latest from my Bar Counselor friend.
Nifungu may have already been served with his summons and not saying anything about it, or the Bar is going to wait until after Friday’s hearing. IT IS going to HAPPEN, SOON! The wagons are circled up and the calvary is coming.
Nifungu is going to be summoned before the Bar Disciplinary committee to show cause as to why his license should not be suspended or revoked. A trial will occur next year. The charges are miscontuct, to wit pretrial publicity. Notice I said NOTHING about censuring him, very important.
OH BOY!! Santa’s on the Chimney right now!! HO HO HO, I hope ole Mikey reads this tonight!! Let him have a few sleepless nights and some coal in his stocking!
Fox News (Shep Smith) reporting the accuser HAD A BABY today.
At least we know who the father is NOT. . .
But a DNA test might prove interesting to determine that.
(It is my fervent hope that this will be the excuse
the AV uses to drop the charges, saying she has other priorities now, etc.)
WRAL TV update…
http://www.wral.com/news/10541437/detail.html
A defense attorney tells WRAL that a test taken at the hospital showed that she was not pregnant at the time of the party and that she was given emergency contraception commonly referred to as the morning-after pill.
(snip)
This week, attorneys in the case filed a motion in which they said male DNA from multiple sources was found on the accuser, but none from their clients.
I’m watching Greta Van Sustren on Fox and she’s showing a taped interview with one of the relatives of the Duke rape “victim” and the things she’s saying are just infuriating.
I was watching court tv yesterday and they mentioned that if NiF*** is shown to have been massively overzealous (yeah when it happens) the boys will have the turtle that is the county on its back waiting for them to use the sledge hammer. As someone who has seen their position before I can almost promise that these boys will rip it out from the juggular. I don’t know what the law says but I hope and pray that those boys can hold the AV financially and legally liable for what she’s done. Maybe if she’s doing time and her kids end up in foster care they will have hope of being useful members of society. Someone mentioned she may have just had a baby and that they hoped she used it as an excuse to not persue the charges…I hope not, I hope she has no escape route and she is exposed for the lying incitement and attention hungry prostitute she is. I want there to be no way for her to claim justice failed her. I will almost be disappointed if it is dismissed because if the evidence was lain out in front of 12 people it would make it that much more clear and undeniable she misused the system.
The father is a witness to the AV’s condition shortly after the rape; hence he should be deposed and called to testify.
Nifong should have disclosed this information (her pregnancy) to the defense as soon as he knew about it; it’s revelant that a woman claiming rape is pregnant shortly thereafter.
If Nifong talked to her about her condition, then he did in fact discuss something about the case with her, hence his statement that he had not discussed the case with her is false.
And so on . . .
It just gets better and better.
So she wasn’t pregnant at the time of the “incident” – then got pregant shortly thereafter with her 3rd out of wedlock kid from who knows who. Obviously she hasn’t been working as a “stripper honor student” recently.
The cousin interviewed on Fox says her whole extended family has not had any contact with her except occasional phone calls since April. Apparantly the taxpayers of Durham are covering her living expenses, kiddie care, and for “handlers” the Prosecutors office have employed to keep her physicially incommunicado.
Yet while she was sitting around in a safe haven cared for by Nifong’s handlers all these months, Nifong has not had a chance to interview her?
At this point, I can see the lawyers not just wanting dismissal and Nifong’s wrist slapped by the NC Bar – but to pursue a Federal civil rights case seeking a Fed court decree to recoup all their unpaid expenses as well as civil rights damages from the taxpayers of NC for the apparant abuse of power a state official has done.
And possibly not just the 3, but others (coach, graduating players who had large legal costs, lost jobs from employers certain of collective guilt) who can argue they suffered career damage from Nifong’s and (certain cops) conduct.
And if there is any justice, the system will have to deal with the false accuser not as a victim, but as someone just as responsible as Nifong for this travesty of justice and damage to America’s race relations.
It just gets better and better. And it will get better still…
Hopefully, in the end those innocents who were damaged get the restitution, apologies, and see the truly cu;pable face retribution.
I wonder who the father of the baby is…And why didn’t she change her underwear, Ickkk
I hope they do a drug screen on this poor baby.
I said it before and I say it again, I wonder how many other cases have been treated this way. I wonder if this type of behavior is a pattern? I predict now that there will be people coming out of the woodwork who claim that they were treated in the same fashion. And the Taxpayers will foot the bill.
I wonder if the Style Section in the Washington Post will run a “name the baby” contest on Sunday.
Crystal is only 7 months pregnant, this whole thing I believe was staged by Nifungu and his behind the scene helpers, for a little diversion. Feb 5 next hearing, I will try to find out this afternoon if this will delay Nifungu’s own hearing before the Bar. I don’t think it will. You might have a new DA in Durham in Feb. Merry Christmas
Update found here about DA NiF*** specifically hiding DNA evidence. This is getting very interesting…
http://www.newsobserver.com/1185/story/521017.html
I havent talked about thie case in months, and almost forgot about it. I dont understand what is the new news. I am listening to the news, and I am hearing all the same stuff that I heard 4 months ago. Well ok, she is pregnant? But she is not due toll February, that would be well past the incident for the time of her pregnancy. This is purely media hype here. Greta Van Sustern put out bad news by saying there was a baby born, and the news media made people think that something was about to happen. Nothing happened, but listening to more nasty details of this case. This DNA stuff is just embarassing for the AV. I dont even want to talk about it.
Nifong is on record saying that he did not disclose the DNA evidence that did not support his case because he “didnt want to drag any names through the mud” How nice of him?
What is glaringly apparent is that there is an abundance of grounds to dismiss this case (for prosecutorial malfeasance, along with lack of evidence), and yet no judge in NC seems willing to take that step.
IOW, public opinion so threatens judges there that they are unable to fulfill their obligation to do justice.
Even Alabama could produce a Judge Horton; I guess NC comes up a little short even there.
Kempermanx your comment that Nifong or his helpers leaked to the media that Crystal delivered a child 9 mos after the hoax as a distraction to his problems is disturbing to me. I guess up until this I’ve really lived a privileged life by never knowing a person of his ilk. Tomorrow my anger will resurface, but at the moment this thought just makes me incredibly sad.
Nifong must be investigated. There is something very wrong going on here. I believe he has covered up evidence and he should be removed from the case as soon as possible !!!!!!
North Carolina “justice” makes a mockery of the Constitution’s Full Faith and Credit clause. That little Freislers such as Nifong are permitted to hold that state’s legal system in the palms of their hands places it in such disrepute that none of it decisions may be properly relied upon. It is time, I believe, for a stern rebuke from the rest of the country where the civilized rule of law yet prevails.
Let the states initiate their response by preventing this vile creature, Nifong, from being able to set foot outside North Carolina without facing arrest and prosecution. Let the states then deny extraditions to North Carolina. Then let them refuse to honor decisions of NC courts. The NC legal system is in need of complete and immediate reform. The good citizens of the rest of the USA can compel this course if, acting in concert, they make it impossible for North Carolinians to live among us otherwise.
I say that every person who has been convicted in Durham since this DA has been in charge, should have their cases reviewed. This may not only be about the Duke students, there may be many others. Pandora’s Box. HOw much will this cost the taxpayers?
To Steve D up in MD: Whoa!! You deserve rebuke for lumping good North Carolinians into the impact of this novel idea of yours. Last I heard, due process, the commerce clause, full faith and credit, etc. etc. still apply and would protect the good folks down this way from such embargos, blockades, trade sanctions and the like that you believe we deserve.
Mark my words — we shall not take this lying down!! We will refuse to buy your crabcakes and we shall not export our barbecue for any price!!
LOL! You go Tater!
At the risk of causing a war, I must say that North Carolina BBQ is rather mediocre at best. Lots of sinew and string. If you want really great BBQ, you must go to Macon, Georgia and get some at “Fresh Air”. Now that is good stuff.
As you all know, I have posted that Nifungu would get a Bar summons before Christmas. My contact now tells me that in light of Friday’s testimony the summons will have to be amended to include more serious charges. That can not be done until the Jan meeting. After which Nifungu will be tried by three Bar members. They will be seeking his disbarment. They are Pissed. I believe that if he is disbarred they will also refer the case to the US Attorney’s office for prosecution. Merry Christmas.
Belle,
Ga BBQ is really not that bad if you are in to shoe leather overcooked. Merry Christmas
TaterCon: I’m certain there are many fine North Carolinans, yourself and Kemp among them. I can’t discern, though, whether y’all constitute anything approaching a majority. How could the judicial system have gotten to its current state of disrepair if that were the case? Is there really NO verbatim record of grand jury proceedings?? It’s UNbeLIEVable!
My current view is that you, Kemp, and the other good citizens down there are being held hostage in an insane asylum. If the rest of us across the country initiate harsh sanctions against NC, it will not be out of malice. We would only do so to emancipate you all, and to prevent North Carolina injustice from insinuating itself into our own lives through the workings of Constitutional irony.
Be advised, too, that in any ensuing crab cake/barbecue war, I stand well prepared! I make a truly excellent NC-style barbecue here at home. There’s no doubt but that I can wait you out! %^)
Steve, no doubt that excellent NC BBQ you make is made with a Georgia recipe. Now, about those crab cakes……
Hello all,
I just returned from a party, it is Christmas. A Federal Judge(old friend) said that the middle district of NC’s US Attorney(USA) had opened a file on the Durham affair in May. He made it clear that everything Nifungu does is being watched. If you want to suggest to the Middle District USA that she take some action, you might give her a call: Anna Mills S. Wagoner, 336-333-5351. She is the USA that will, hopefully, file against Nifungu for any violations of US code or Civil rights.
I won’t argue with Steve, we are held hostage in NC to the minority vote, which keeps one party rule in power. Until the GOP can attract Black votes, 30% of NC’s total, NC will continue to have problems. Case in point, Frank Ballance, former Black US Congressman steals $100,000 in US funds, gets convicted, but now says he shouldn’t have to do his time in the slammer, go figure that logic?
That is the mindset of a lot of folks in Durham.
On any number of blogs, many Duke alumni have wondered whether Duke’s response to the rape hoax and the plight of the three accused should in any way alter their plans for making financial contributions to the University. I have a modest suggestion. Those who are truly horrified by the University’s actions over these many months might consider making ALL their donations through the 3 young men’s legal defense fund, and allowing any residuals above and beyond whatever might be necessary to defend the case to be used for the “betterment of Duke University.” Furthermore, I’d encourage them to respond directly to the Board of Trustees, in writing, to any direct solicitations for contributions, describing the actions they’re taking and the reasons behind them. The most important thing in repairing Duke’s reputation and ensuring its long term success will be to win acquittals for 3 accused, and the best way to enlist the University’s active support in this enterprise will be to tie its financial interests to that outcome.
#69
I have a modest suggestion.
Great idea!
The costs for the defendants in this endless nightmare are staggering. (By way of comparison, in California a case must be brought to trial within 60 days or else the charges must be dropped.)
But this case will have gone on 11 months by the time of the next hearing in February; and still the major defense motions have yet to be heard, and the defendants have yet to be informed of the specifics of the charges against them (no Bill of Particulars).
The Judge may now be happy to take a holiday break, but the indicted players and their families can’t take a holiday from their own endless ordeal.
And worse :
The DA knew he had no case on April 10, when the DNA results came back. But he still indicted, on April 17 (having avoided an evidence hearing, which would have ended the case.)
This is nothing more than a frame-up based on false and misleading statements by all concerned with the prosecution; and it’s long past time to put the stake through its heart, or for the feds (uninterested souls that they are) to intervene.
As a Duke parent, with a pledge, I’ll try it. I’ll bet they won’t buy it and want my money. Will let you know SOON. Kemp
Kemp, is there any possibility that other cases may have been treated in similar fashion? Aren’t the powers that be in Durham concerned that the events in this case may release an avalanche of similar complaints? Why does it seem to take so long to expose what most of us believe has happened here?
PS- I’m willing to give NC BBQ another try if you can recommend a place!
Belle,
Durham has always been sort of the hell hole of the state. I don’t have the space to tell you all the stories. Think about this, Durham police, I believe, have not arrested anyone for prostitution in five years? Think someone is getting paid off? Actually it’s the only town in the nation with no whores, they’re all “dancers”. Local ABC stores, we have controlled liquor sales in NC, had to be taken over by state. $100’s of thousands were missing. After the Tobacco plants closed, the only thing to do in Durham is work for Duke, NCCU or work for the government, or welfare, or maybe dance? If Duke moved, this place would be Camden, NJ, only poorer.
The witchhunters that are employees of Duke need to be hunted in return. They were trying to set an example and an example needs to be made of them. Nationally. There is no better opportunity than this. Also Nifong fits this same pair of shoes. This collective corruption of integrity needs to be scoured out of North Carolina. Why would any well reasoned parent send their child to Duke?
Here’s a link to the SNL skit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQe40ycRQ0s
You got love this, what a great Christmas present for the boys.
NOW, if the NY Times would just report some facts and get the liberals mad, nifungu would be toast.
To All,
I don’t know what to make of this, but I am passing it along to everyone. I posted earlier that I had heard Nifungu would be facing Bar summons before Christmas, and Sat I had heard that that summons had been postponed to add more serious charges. At lunch today a lawyer friend, sorry to admit that, told me the Nifungu would appear before the Bar Disciplinary committee, TOMORROW, TUES the 19th., and that he had already been served with his summons. Who knows what is going on, but it is not good for Nifungu, that’s for sure. Disbarment is what I think will happen, but he gets to appeal the verdict to NC Supreme Court, I am told he will be wasting his time. I don’t know how soon such action takes affect, that is does he get to keep his license while he appeals, or is he busted right then. Fun Fun Fun
Lawyer was drunk, not possible to have hearing on Tuesday, best we can hope for is the filing of a formal complaint, which Nifungu has 20 days to respond to. Merry Christmas Kemp
When Susan Estrich says it’s so blatant that the judge should remove Nifong from the case, you know there’s no defense for his actions.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,237084,00.html
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