“Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit precedeth a fall.” I don’t anticipate that Nifong will concede. It doesn’t appear to be in his nature, and I suspect that he will interpret any offer along the lines you describe as a sign of weakness on the part of the State Bar. He also knows that others who had done more grievous wrong had received milder sanctions. Who knows? He might yet consider himself a political force to be reckoned with. If Nifong goes, I tend to think it will be by force. With hearings to be scheduled, along with possible continuances and appeals, it might well take months.

They are going to make him an offer he can’t refuse!!

He’s such an idiot, he probably will refuse, and go to jail.

Bottom line over by the 12th!

Love ya mean it.
Kemp

Right. And by this logic the Scottsboro boys, who broke the law when they illegally rode the rails and then got accused of rape, should have taken the bus–you associate with a better class of people there than those who ride the rails.

And all those women who dressed in a way so as to be enticing to men (short skirts?) should have known it was only their own fault if they got raped as a consequence.

And of course since women never lie about rape, we have to assume the Scottsboro boys were guilty, anyway.

Rather, you can severely reduce your chances of having a false accusation of rape leveled against you if there is an honest DA, a watchdog press, and a stripper who doesn’t have a criminal record, a problem with drug abuse, a history of lying to get out of trouble (including a prior false accusation of gang rape) and a relationship with the police which allows her to operate with impunity.

But then again, we’re talking Durham here. So maybe add one more : if you don’t venture over the county line, your chances of being caught and falsely prosecuted by the DPD are much reduced.

However the Duke lacrosse rape case turns out, one lesson that absolutely will not be learned is this: You can severely reduce your chances of having a false accusation of rape leveled against you if you don’t hire strange women to come to your house and take their clothes off for money.

Also, you can severely reduce your chances of being raped if you do not go to strange men’s houses and take your clothes off for money. (Does anyone else detect a common thread here?)

And if you are a girl in Aruba or New York City, among the best ways to avoid being the victim of a horrible crime is to not get drunk in public or go off in a car with men you just met. While we’re on the subject of things every 5-year-old should know, I also recommend against dousing yourself in gasoline and striking a match.

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Seems to provide an additional or alternate view to some of the sub thread material in this thread.

The point I was really trying to make about Kobe is the point of focus again on an out of control DA or for that matter justice system.

“Eagle county was the one that really got raped, and there again is a DA that prosecuted the rape without consequence! He cost the county close to 10 million in ancillary expenses for parking lots, buildings and more, just so the county could host the trial. The trial they knew would NEVER happen! Why? Because the girl was nothing but another lying little whore! She was in school the next day bragging about getting porked by Kobe! ”

The facts and numbers of false accusations can stand on their own merit and in today’s current environment any male is rather screwed from the outset! I don’t attach misogynistic views to such as there are ample cases that do, others can do as they wish. But that is NOT the purpose of this thread, seemed to make sense to mention it as I wrote above.

SMD said: “We who defend the Duke Three do so not to trivialize rape or advance misogyny, but, rather, do so in the defense of justice and reason.”

I agree with such as well.

I also believe we need to continue the dialog into preventing a bunch of this in the first place. Only by discussion and keeping things on the table can further changes be made. While I’m at it, either disclose all parties names or keep them all silent while due process is being investigated and prosecuted until a time when final judgment is passed.

I’m not up on the BBQ sauce item, but I keep it around, if I run out I make more as needed. I’m sure anybody making it through my post for sure has earned a bucket of it!

Kobe was screwed! In many ways. Do I think well of him, no way, he is just another expmple of a young and reckless kid with too much time and money on his hands!!

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One needs to get rather local to know such. Kobe acted selfishly, well duh!? Married, rich, HUGE future, and some little girl comes to his room to phuk him decides she did not like it in da butt! Then she got real stupid, figuring she could scream rape! It went downhill pretty quickly for her after that.”

SteveDinMD: TC, you might be interested to know that, if your hypothetical version of events is accurate, Kobe was actually guilty of forcible rape (or sodomy in some jurisdictions) and should by right be spending most of his expected life span in the Colorado state prison system. Moreover, the presence of her boyfriend’s semen in her vagina in no way nullifies his accuser’s claim of rape. If, for example, Kobe were to rape my wife, the presence of my semen does not disprove the allegation, nor would it be in any way exculpatory. Such has not been the reasoning of those who have debunked the claims of Crystal Gail Mangum, the woman who accuses the Duke Three.

NO forensic or clinical evidence substantiates her claim. Her own stories have been wildly inconsistent with each other. Every single eyewitness has contradicted each of Crystal’s accounts. Independent photographic and computer evidence contradicts her accounts. She had repeatedly demonstrated herself to be incapable of rendering any credible identification of her alleged attackers. Finally, Crystal’s known character undermines her credibility as a witness. In short, there is NO evidence that Crystal was so much as touched, let alone raped or otherwise physically abused. We who defend the Duke Three do so not to trivialize rape or advance misogyny, but, rather, do so in the defense of justice and reason.

kempermanx, this line is a classic! I’m going to have to remember it.

REMEMBER. these people get paid by the hour.

Kemp? No disrespect, but ANY of us who have dealt with lawyers on even the most causal basis could never forget this fact.

And yes, TaterCon, that was a shot against lawyers. I owe you some BBQ sauce.

An un-indicted LAX player has begun a civil suit against Duke

The cynic in me wonders how much of the recent Duke administration ’support’ for their players (see Richard Brodhead’s recent statement as well as the Economics Department statement) is driven by the fear of lawsuits yet to come?

If their motives were pure, why did we not see this support months ago when even the most casual viewer could see the railroad ties being assigned to the LAX players?

As I wrote earlier, Brodhead’s comments are best seen as rats leaving a sinking ship.

After many drinks I found out that I have been wrong in the time line here.

First, the good news, my friend is on the grievance committee, more charges are coming.

Bad news, I thought that at the Jan 16-18 meeting that the Bar would start the disbarment proceedings.

Wrong.

Nifungu has at least 90 days, with extensions, to drag out the hearing on his charges, which will be tried by 3 people, 2 bar members and one appointed by the governor.

This could go on for close to a year, with all the appeals. REMEMBER. these people get paid by the hour.

The last good news is that my friend thinks Nifungu may surrender his license instead of facing a trial.

At any rate, bottom line, Nifungu is Toast, only question is when he coming out of the toaster.

Kemp

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=…ngle&id=4905060

Kyle Dowd filed the lawsuit Thursday against against Duke University and visiting associate professor Kim Curtis. Dowd, who graduated with David Evans in May 2006, was not indicted in the rape case but says that Professor Curtis gave him and another lacrosse player in class a failing grade in class as a form of retaliation after the Duke Lacrosse scandal broke. The two players were apparently receiving passing grades until the scandal, and Duke University revised their grades upward months after graduation. . .

Professor Curtis was among the “Group of 88″ professors who published an advertisement in the Duke Chronicle calling the rape scandal a “social disaster.”