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		<title>By: Seahawk</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2007/01/08/reade-seligmann/comment-page-2/#comment-82976</link>
		<dc:creator>Seahawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 17:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the defendants&#039; motion : 

&lt;i&gt;â€œRather than attempt to identify her attackers as Matt, Brett and Adam, the accuser used the names of the Defendants in her most recent telling of her story. Specifically, the investigator noted that â€˜Inv. Wilson asked Crystal Mangum to tell him whose names the guys were using on March 13, 2006 since she knows their real names.â€™ The State has repeatedly represented to this Court that no substantive discussions of this case took place with the accuser from April 6, 2006 until this last interview. &lt;b&gt;The fact that the accuser now â€œknows their real namesâ€ indicates that she has learned their names from the extensive publicity that this case has received, publicity that has necessarily included the Defendantsâ€™ faces as well as their names. &lt;/b&gt;It cannot be known at this time with any reliability what else she has learned from this publicity. &lt;b&gt;This, in turn, means that the accuserâ€™s present recollection of who allegedly attacked her and how, has been irreparably tainted by this publicity and weighs strongly against any in-court identification by her of the Defendants.â€&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the defendants&#8217; motion : </p>
<p><i>â€œRather than attempt to identify her attackers as Matt, Brett and Adam, the accuser used the names of the Defendants in her most recent telling of her story. Specifically, the investigator noted that â€˜Inv. Wilson asked Crystal Mangum to tell him whose names the guys were using on March 13, 2006 since she knows their real names.â€™ The State has repeatedly represented to this Court that no substantive discussions of this case took place with the accuser from April 6, 2006 until this last interview. <b>The fact that the accuser now â€œknows their real namesâ€ indicates that she has learned their names from the extensive publicity that this case has received, publicity that has necessarily included the Defendantsâ€™ faces as well as their names. </b>It cannot be known at this time with any reliability what else she has learned from this publicity. <b>This, in turn, means that the accuserâ€™s present recollection of who allegedly attacked her and how, has been irreparably tainted by this publicity and weighs strongly against any in-court identification by her of the Defendants.â€</b></i></p>
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		<title>By: Belle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Belle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 16:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dang! Those pensions will get you everytime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dang! Those pensions will get you everytime.</p>
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		<title>By: JMK</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2007/01/08/reade-seligmann/comment-page-2/#comment-82967</link>
		<dc:creator>JMK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 16:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a GREAT article in the WSJ on &quot;The Nifong Scandal at http://www.opinionjournal.com/medialog/?id=110009507

In it the author compares it to the abusive prosecutions of a number of daycare providers on false charges of child abuse, but she seems to see Nifong as an overzealous prosecutor motivated by being &lt;i&gt;&quot;a product of the political times, a prosecutor who has absorbed all the clues about the sanctified status now accorded charges involving rape, child sex-abuse and accusations of racism.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

I think that gives Nifong far too much benefit of the doubt.

He was motivated, according to Jackie Brown (his campaign manager) by money - seeking three more years to qualify for his pension and lacking the funds needed to turn around a flagging campaign.

I don&#039;t believee Mike Nifong merely misguided, but deliberately malicious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a GREAT article in the WSJ on &#8220;The Nifong Scandal at <a href="http://www.opinionjournal.com/medialog/?id=110009507" rel="nofollow">http://www.opinionjournal.com/medialog/?id=110009507</a></p>
<p>In it the author compares it to the abusive prosecutions of a number of daycare providers on false charges of child abuse, but she seems to see Nifong as an overzealous prosecutor motivated by being <i>&#8220;a product of the political times, a prosecutor who has absorbed all the clues about the sanctified status now accorded charges involving rape, child sex-abuse and accusations of racism.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>I think that gives Nifong far too much benefit of the doubt.</p>
<p>He was motivated, according to Jackie Brown (his campaign manager) by money &#8211; seeking three more years to qualify for his pension and lacking the funds needed to turn around a flagging campaign.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believee Mike Nifong merely misguided, but deliberately malicious.</p>
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		<title>By: Seahawk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seahawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 15:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Latest inanities from the accuser (which is also what happens when the DA refuses to give you a Bill of Particulars as to who is to be charged with what (meaning, he can keep changing his &#039;story&#039; to fit with the evidence) :

http://www.newsobserver.com/1185/story/531253.html

&lt;i&gt;The woman adjusted the timing of the assault to earlier in the evening, a time point preceding the well-documented alibi of one accused player, Reade Seligmann. The defense, however, introduced yet more alibi evidence for Seligmann: he was on the cell phone with his girlfriend during the height of the attack as the accuser now times it.

The new version of the events comes from a Dec. 21 interview by Linwood Wilson, chief investigator for Durham District Attorney Mike Nifong. . . 

(snip)

The statement layers new and contradictory accounts over the woman&#039;s previous statements:

* In her latest statement she said the attack ended at midnight.

In previous accounts, the woman said the gang-rape ended shortly before she left in the car driven by Kim Roberts, the second dancer. Roberts called 911 as she was driving away at 12:53 a.m., according to police records. This new account leaves 50 minutes unaccounted between the end of the rape and the departure from the party.

The new statement runs contrary to time stamped photos of the party, which show the two women dancing between 12:00 and 12:04 a.m. in the living room of the house at 610 N. Buchanan Blvd.

* In the latest statement, the woman says she arrived at the party at 11:20 p.m. on March 13 and that the rape began at 11:40 p.m. Her cell phone records show that she was on phone with her father and others up to one minute before the rape allegedly started.

* The woman now said her alleged assailants used multiple names.

In previous accounts, she said she was assaulted by three men named &quot;Adam&quot;, &quot;Brett&quot; and &quot;Matt.&quot; She has given conflicting descriptions of the three men and contradictory accounts of how they assaulted her.

In the Dec. 21 interview, she said for the first time that the players used multiple names. &quot;Dan, Adam and Brett was used by Dave Evans,&quot; Wilson wrote. &quot;Adam and Matt was also used by Reade Seligmann. She does not remember a name being used for Collin Finnerty or if he was called by a name.&quot;

* The accuser has changed her description of Evans. On April 4, she viewed a photograph of Evans and said it looked like one of her assailants, except that the assailant had a moustache. In the Dec. 21 statement, the woman said the assailant had a five o&#039;clock shadow, not a moustache. Evans has a visible five o&#039;clock shadow in the photograph.

* In her recent statement, the woman said that Evans stood in front of her and made her perform sex on him. In past statements, she said that Seligmann did this.

Nifong could not be reached immediately for comment today.
Joseph Neff can be reached at 829-4516 or jneff@newsobserver.com&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Latest inanities from the accuser (which is also what happens when the DA refuses to give you a Bill of Particulars as to who is to be charged with what (meaning, he can keep changing his &#8216;story&#8217; to fit with the evidence) :</p>
<p><a href="http://www.newsobserver.com/1185/story/531253.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.newsobserver.com/1185/story/531253.html</a></p>
<p><i>The woman adjusted the timing of the assault to earlier in the evening, a time point preceding the well-documented alibi of one accused player, Reade Seligmann. The defense, however, introduced yet more alibi evidence for Seligmann: he was on the cell phone with his girlfriend during the height of the attack as the accuser now times it.</p>
<p>The new version of the events comes from a Dec. 21 interview by Linwood Wilson, chief investigator for Durham District Attorney Mike Nifong. . . </p>
<p>(snip)</p>
<p>The statement layers new and contradictory accounts over the woman&#8217;s previous statements:</p>
<p>* In her latest statement she said the attack ended at midnight.</p>
<p>In previous accounts, the woman said the gang-rape ended shortly before she left in the car driven by Kim Roberts, the second dancer. Roberts called 911 as she was driving away at 12:53 a.m., according to police records. This new account leaves 50 minutes unaccounted between the end of the rape and the departure from the party.</p>
<p>The new statement runs contrary to time stamped photos of the party, which show the two women dancing between 12:00 and 12:04 a.m. in the living room of the house at 610 N. Buchanan Blvd.</p>
<p>* In the latest statement, the woman says she arrived at the party at 11:20 p.m. on March 13 and that the rape began at 11:40 p.m. Her cell phone records show that she was on phone with her father and others up to one minute before the rape allegedly started.</p>
<p>* The woman now said her alleged assailants used multiple names.</p>
<p>In previous accounts, she said she was assaulted by three men named &#8220;Adam&#8221;, &#8220;Brett&#8221; and &#8220;Matt.&#8221; She has given conflicting descriptions of the three men and contradictory accounts of how they assaulted her.</p>
<p>In the Dec. 21 interview, she said for the first time that the players used multiple names. &#8220;Dan, Adam and Brett was used by Dave Evans,&#8221; Wilson wrote. &#8220;Adam and Matt was also used by Reade Seligmann. She does not remember a name being used for Collin Finnerty or if he was called by a name.&#8221;</p>
<p>* The accuser has changed her description of Evans. On April 4, she viewed a photograph of Evans and said it looked like one of her assailants, except that the assailant had a moustache. In the Dec. 21 statement, the woman said the assailant had a five o&#8217;clock shadow, not a moustache. Evans has a visible five o&#8217;clock shadow in the photograph.</p>
<p>* In her recent statement, the woman said that Evans stood in front of her and made her perform sex on him. In past statements, she said that Seligmann did this.</p>
<p>Nifong could not be reached immediately for comment today.<br />
Joseph Neff can be reached at 829-4516 or <a href="mailto:jneff@newsobserver.com">jneff@newsobserver.com</a></i><i></i></p>
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		<title>By: JMK</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2007/01/08/reade-seligmann/comment-page-2/#comment-82951</link>
		<dc:creator>JMK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 03:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t much about the Leftist &quot;trendies,&quot; but I do know the workings of a very similar case (the one in the Bronx) and I had to go on record supporting the firing of those guys (also guys who had never been in trouble before and, in fact, in their case broke NO Laws), but they&#039;re behavior that night in dealing with that woman one of them had met online was reckless and irresponsible and in the process, though they broke no laws, they violated a number of Departmental regs - enough to get them all fired.

The one firefighter I felt some sympathy for was the one who was fired for simply refusing to cooperate with investigators (he wouldn&#039;t turn over his co-workers to investigators, the others did) - he was fired for, among other things, &quot;obstructing an investigation.&quot;

While neither the strippers, nor the players did anything illegal that evening (just as neither that woman nor those firefighters did anything illegal), there were was a lot of reckless, irresponsible and embarrassing behavior on both sides. 

The argument in both cases that &quot;There&#039;d have been no embarrassment to Duke/the FDNY,&quot; is inane and specious.

Stripping and hiring strippers are equally immoral, indecent acts, though NEITHER is illegal. Trying to argue &quot;which one is worse,&quot; is like debating which is worse a prostitute or a &quot;john?&quot; There is no &quot;worse,&quot; both are equally reprehensible acts and if anything, the &quot;john&quot; (if Married) is more reckless and irresponsible for subjecting his wife to the possibility of a disease via that prostitute. There was little or no decency on either side that night, indecency is not &quot;criminal.&quot;

I don&#039;t see either the strippers nor the players as &quot;criminals&quot; in this case (though the accuser should probably ultimately be charged with filing a false report), ONLY Mike Nifong is a true villain.

His deliberate evil far overwhelms any of the recklessness and indecency engaged in by either side in the actual dispute.

If Nifong had even a shred of decency, this case would&#039;ve been immediately dropped and the monetary dispute mediated.

Obviously he didn&#039;t and he should have to pay for his deliberate mangling of the law for his own personal gain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t much about the Leftist &#8220;trendies,&#8221; but I do know the workings of a very similar case (the one in the Bronx) and I had to go on record supporting the firing of those guys (also guys who had never been in trouble before and, in fact, in their case broke NO Laws), but they&#8217;re behavior that night in dealing with that woman one of them had met online was reckless and irresponsible and in the process, though they broke no laws, they violated a number of Departmental regs &#8211; enough to get them all fired.</p>
<p>The one firefighter I felt some sympathy for was the one who was fired for simply refusing to cooperate with investigators (he wouldn&#8217;t turn over his co-workers to investigators, the others did) &#8211; he was fired for, among other things, &#8220;obstructing an investigation.&#8221;</p>
<p>While neither the strippers, nor the players did anything illegal that evening (just as neither that woman nor those firefighters did anything illegal), there were was a lot of reckless, irresponsible and embarrassing behavior on both sides. </p>
<p>The argument in both cases that &#8220;There&#8217;d have been no embarrassment to Duke/the FDNY,&#8221; is inane and specious.</p>
<p>Stripping and hiring strippers are equally immoral, indecent acts, though NEITHER is illegal. Trying to argue &#8220;which one is worse,&#8221; is like debating which is worse a prostitute or a &#8220;john?&#8221; There is no &#8220;worse,&#8221; both are equally reprehensible acts and if anything, the &#8220;john&#8221; (if Married) is more reckless and irresponsible for subjecting his wife to the possibility of a disease via that prostitute. There was little or no decency on either side that night, indecency is not &#8220;criminal.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see either the strippers nor the players as &#8220;criminals&#8221; in this case (though the accuser should probably ultimately be charged with filing a false report), ONLY Mike Nifong is a true villain.</p>
<p>His deliberate evil far overwhelms any of the recklessness and indecency engaged in by either side in the actual dispute.</p>
<p>If Nifong had even a shred of decency, this case would&#8217;ve been immediately dropped and the monetary dispute mediated.</p>
<p>Obviously he didn&#8217;t and he should have to pay for his deliberate mangling of the law for his own personal gain.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveDinMD</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2007/01/08/reade-seligmann/comment-page-2/#comment-82950</link>
		<dc:creator>SteveDinMD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 02:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of the &quot;outrage&quot; directed toward the players over the alcohol and strippers at the party is coming from the direction of the leftist trendies who had been vigorously attempting to use this case as a springboard to further their social/political agendas.  Now that the case has blown up in their faces and exposed the moral bankruptcy of their ideology, they&#039;re scrambling for cover.  By condemning the boys&#039; hiring of the strippers, they&#039;re implicitly advancing the notion that the boys &quot;deserved to be prosecuted even though they might be innocent of the specific charges filed against them.&quot;  

The hypocrisy of it all is astounding.  Note that of those on the left criticizing the players for hiring strippers, not a single soul has criticized the accuser for apparently being a crack whore and welfare mom.  Moreover, they&#039;re the same people who sing the praises of nude cocktail parties at Yale, and form lesbian &quot;knitting&quot; cirlces at campuses nationwide.  Fornication and sodomy are among the sacraments of the High Church of Leftist Orthodoxy, yet the parishoners faint at the thought of a stripper.  Ridiculous!  It&#039;s just another stick with which to beat heterosexual caucasian males.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of the &#8220;outrage&#8221; directed toward the players over the alcohol and strippers at the party is coming from the direction of the leftist trendies who had been vigorously attempting to use this case as a springboard to further their social/political agendas.  Now that the case has blown up in their faces and exposed the moral bankruptcy of their ideology, they&#8217;re scrambling for cover.  By condemning the boys&#8217; hiring of the strippers, they&#8217;re implicitly advancing the notion that the boys &#8220;deserved to be prosecuted even though they might be innocent of the specific charges filed against them.&#8221;  </p>
<p>The hypocrisy of it all is astounding.  Note that of those on the left criticizing the players for hiring strippers, not a single soul has criticized the accuser for apparently being a crack whore and welfare mom.  Moreover, they&#8217;re the same people who sing the praises of nude cocktail parties at Yale, and form lesbian &#8220;knitting&#8221; cirlces at campuses nationwide.  Fornication and sodomy are among the sacraments of the High Church of Leftist Orthodoxy, yet the parishoners faint at the thought of a stripper.  Ridiculous!  It&#8217;s just another stick with which to beat heterosexual caucasian males.</p>
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		<title>By: JMK</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2007/01/08/reade-seligmann/comment-page-2/#comment-82946</link>
		<dc:creator>JMK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 00:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t believe there&#039;s any rational person who believes or believed an actual rape took place tat night...including Mike Nifong.

He ran with a charge he almost certainly knew was false, because he saw it as a way to resuscitate his flagging electoral campaign.

That&#039;s why he should be disbarred, removed from office and criminally prosecuted for his deliberate mangling of the law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t believe there&#8217;s any rational person who believes or believed an actual rape took place tat night&#8230;including Mike Nifong.</p>
<p>He ran with a charge he almost certainly knew was false, because he saw it as a way to resuscitate his flagging electoral campaign.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why he should be disbarred, removed from office and criminally prosecuted for his deliberate mangling of the law.</p>
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		<title>By: Belle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Belle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 00:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, I don&#039;t understand what the outrage about the strippers being at a party is all about.  Don&#039;t get me wrong here, I believe that if you associate with trash, you will end up in the gutter.  But what I don&#039;t get is why all the outrage that these guys hired strippers.  I worked at Duke  a while back and I happen to know that certain Doctors who worked there would visit strip places while attending annual Medical Meetings.  I know because they would talk about it, when they returned to Durham.  Talk about piggy.  At least the lacrosse players could offer up their youth as a partial defense, the people I worked with were in there their thirties and older. The only defense they could offer was that they were garden variety low life pigs.  All these holier than thou powers that be!!  They look the other way when it is their peers who patronize those places and people, but point the finger at these dopey kids who didn&#039;t really know what they were getting themselves into.  I think many of these people are hypocrites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I don&#8217;t understand what the outrage about the strippers being at a party is all about.  Don&#8217;t get me wrong here, I believe that if you associate with trash, you will end up in the gutter.  But what I don&#8217;t get is why all the outrage that these guys hired strippers.  I worked at Duke  a while back and I happen to know that certain Doctors who worked there would visit strip places while attending annual Medical Meetings.  I know because they would talk about it, when they returned to Durham.  Talk about piggy.  At least the lacrosse players could offer up their youth as a partial defense, the people I worked with were in there their thirties and older. The only defense they could offer was that they were garden variety low life pigs.  All these holier than thou powers that be!!  They look the other way when it is their peers who patronize those places and people, but point the finger at these dopey kids who didn&#8217;t really know what they were getting themselves into.  I think many of these people are hypocrites.</p>
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		<title>By: Seahawk</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2007/01/08/reade-seligmann/comment-page-2/#comment-82944</link>
		<dc:creator>Seahawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 00:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry,  but I can&#039;t resist noting Ann Coulter&#039;s quips about the case :

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=18875

&lt;i&gt;Well, that was one of the several versions of events the accuser has offered police to date, although my personal favorite was the one in which Elvis came back from the dead and sexually assaulted her. 

This is the second time this woman has accused a group of men of gang-raping her. One more time and it&#039;s officially considered a hobby.

And yet despite the vast privilege, untold wealth and bright shiny whiteness of the defendants, they are still under criminal indictment in this case. Three of the players face up to 30 years in prison for a crime every sane person knows they did not commit. Ah, the life of the privileged!

If poor black women are constantly being raped by rich white men, then how about they produce one case?&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry,  but I can&#8217;t resist noting Ann Coulter&#8217;s quips about the case :</p>
<p><a href="http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=18875" rel="nofollow">http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=18875</a></p>
<p><i>Well, that was one of the several versions of events the accuser has offered police to date, although my personal favorite was the one in which Elvis came back from the dead and sexually assaulted her. </p>
<p>This is the second time this woman has accused a group of men of gang-raping her. One more time and it&#8217;s officially considered a hobby.</p>
<p>And yet despite the vast privilege, untold wealth and bright shiny whiteness of the defendants, they are still under criminal indictment in this case. Three of the players face up to 30 years in prison for a crime every sane person knows they did not commit. Ah, the life of the privileged!</p>
<p>If poor black women are constantly being raped by rich white men, then how about they produce one case?</i></p>
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		<title>By: JMK</title>
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		<dc:creator>JMK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 23:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t seen anything on Colin Finnerty&#039;s alibi, but as I said earlier on, I don&#039;t believe a rape was committed, just as there was no rape in the 2004 Bronx firehouse scandal.

The woman who made the false charge should eventually be charged with filing a false report, Nifong should be disbarred and removed from office, and the falsely accused should be able to move forward with Civil Suits against Nifong&#039;s office.

I believe Mr Evans said &quot;...and she&#039;s destroyed two other families and brought shame to a great University,&quot; I hope they all rethink that last phrase, because that&#039;s exactly what the falsely accused firefighters said in 2004 - that a woman&#039;s &quot;false charges brought shame on the Department not us.&quot;

They were, of course wrong and so is Mr Evans, in that it was that party (with the underaged drinking, the strippers and other poor behavior)that brought the shame to Duke, the false charge merely brought all that to light.

Actions have consequences. If Mr Seligman wasn&#039;t at the party then he share&#039;s none of the burden of the shame it&#039;s coming to light brought to that team and the school, but those who were at that party do share some culpability for the embarrassment it brought to Duke, just as McFadyen&#039;s email was the reason that Mike Pressler resigned.

Nifong is the sole villain here.

The accuser is a woman with a history of  emotional and psychological problems, who was used by Nifong. The fact that he didn&#039;t interview her for months shows that he saw her as not only unreliable, but perhaps looking to rescind her charges early on, which would&#039;ve ended his free publicity meal-ticket.

There was bad judgment and poor behavior all around, but only Nifong has actually mangled the law here...and for that he should pay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t seen anything on Colin Finnerty&#8217;s alibi, but as I said earlier on, I don&#8217;t believe a rape was committed, just as there was no rape in the 2004 Bronx firehouse scandal.</p>
<p>The woman who made the false charge should eventually be charged with filing a false report, Nifong should be disbarred and removed from office, and the falsely accused should be able to move forward with Civil Suits against Nifong&#8217;s office.</p>
<p>I believe Mr Evans said &#8220;&#8230;and she&#8217;s destroyed two other families and brought shame to a great University,&#8221; I hope they all rethink that last phrase, because that&#8217;s exactly what the falsely accused firefighters said in 2004 &#8211; that a woman&#8217;s &#8220;false charges brought shame on the Department not us.&#8221;</p>
<p>They were, of course wrong and so is Mr Evans, in that it was that party (with the underaged drinking, the strippers and other poor behavior)that brought the shame to Duke, the false charge merely brought all that to light.</p>
<p>Actions have consequences. If Mr Seligman wasn&#8217;t at the party then he share&#8217;s none of the burden of the shame it&#8217;s coming to light brought to that team and the school, but those who were at that party do share some culpability for the embarrassment it brought to Duke, just as McFadyen&#8217;s email was the reason that Mike Pressler resigned.</p>
<p>Nifong is the sole villain here.</p>
<p>The accuser is a woman with a history of  emotional and psychological problems, who was used by Nifong. The fact that he didn&#8217;t interview her for months shows that he saw her as not only unreliable, but perhaps looking to rescind her charges early on, which would&#8217;ve ended his free publicity meal-ticket.</p>
<p>There was bad judgment and poor behavior all around, but only Nifong has actually mangled the law here&#8230;and for that he should pay.</p>
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		<title>By: Seahawk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seahawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 22:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#51 
&lt;i&gt;Without question, Reade Seligmanâ€™s plight is the most odious of any of the Duke players accused because, as he has shown, he wasnâ€™t at the house at the time the accuser puts him there.&lt;/i&gt;

From what I understand, you can add Finnerty to that, since his alibi is supposedly much stronger than Seligmann&#039;s. That would make for two of the accused not present for the three-man half-hour violent struggle (with choke holds) and gang rape (now reduced to a one-man five second sexual assault?) 

Whatever. Nifong can just make it up as he goes along. . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#51<br />
<i>Without question, Reade Seligmanâ€™s plight is the most odious of any of the Duke players accused because, as he has shown, he wasnâ€™t at the house at the time the accuser puts him there.</i></p>
<p>From what I understand, you can add Finnerty to that, since his alibi is supposedly much stronger than Seligmann&#8217;s. That would make for two of the accused not present for the three-man half-hour violent struggle (with choke holds) and gang rape (now reduced to a one-man five second sexual assault?) </p>
<p>Whatever. Nifong can just make it up as he goes along. . .</p>
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		<title>By: JMK</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2007/01/08/reade-seligmann/comment-page-2/#comment-82934</link>
		<dc:creator>JMK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 20:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Maybe Iâ€™m missing the point, but to those who say the boys should learn a lesson about lying down with fleas and who you associate withâ€“it seems to me, when a boy has ATM receipts and photos showing he wasnâ€™t at the house, he was already doing the right thing by not associating with this behavior.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;  Louise B


Without question, Reade Seligman&#039;s plight is the most odious of any of the Duke players accused because, as he has shown, he wasn&#039;t at the house at the time the accuser puts him there.

The fact that despite proofs (ATM receipts) and a witness (the cab driver who drove him there), Mike Nifong wouldn&#039;t consider his a case of &quot;mistaken identity,&quot; adds to the evidence that this was a malicious prosecution conducted by Nifong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Maybe Iâ€™m missing the point, but to those who say the boys should learn a lesson about lying down with fleas and who you associate withâ€“it seems to me, when a boy has ATM receipts and photos showing he wasnâ€™t at the house, he was already doing the right thing by not associating with this behavior.&#8221;</i>  Louise B</p>
<p>Without question, Reade Seligman&#8217;s plight is the most odious of any of the Duke players accused because, as he has shown, he wasn&#8217;t at the house at the time the accuser puts him there.</p>
<p>The fact that despite proofs (ATM receipts) and a witness (the cab driver who drove him there), Mike Nifong wouldn&#8217;t consider his a case of &#8220;mistaken identity,&#8221; adds to the evidence that this was a malicious prosecution conducted by Nifong.</p>
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		<title>By: Seahawk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seahawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 19:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some splendid remarks today by Duke Engineering professor Gustafon (excerpts) :

http://www.xanga.com/DukeEgr93

&lt;i&gt;The evil of rape is of such an immense magnitude that I would think people who have sworn themselves to support rape victims would also recognize the enormity of a false accusation.

The party was not some elemental force of Man exerting its dominance over Woman; it was not a universal declaration of Rich over Poor; it was not the coming together of all the forces of the cosmos to represent repression in any and all forms.

one of the most poignent quotes over these many months was from Reade Seligmann - &quot;Mom, she picked me.&quot;

The team, writ large, should not be treated like they were the topsiders on the Amistad - such a hyperbolic response has done nothing but incite one part of the community and desensitize another.

I can&#039;t get anything I write or say onto ink. So I blog, and hope that in the act Mr. Evans, and Mr. Finnerty, and Mr. Seligmann know that there are those of us who will say THIS cannot stand.

these men are NOT those forces - these men are individuals deserving of our ear for their story and our pens for their rights. &lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some splendid remarks today by Duke Engineering professor Gustafon (excerpts) :</p>
<p><a href="http://www.xanga.com/DukeEgr93" rel="nofollow">http://www.xanga.com/DukeEgr93</a></p>
<p><i>The evil of rape is of such an immense magnitude that I would think people who have sworn themselves to support rape victims would also recognize the enormity of a false accusation.</p>
<p>The party was not some elemental force of Man exerting its dominance over Woman; it was not a universal declaration of Rich over Poor; it was not the coming together of all the forces of the cosmos to represent repression in any and all forms.</p>
<p>one of the most poignent quotes over these many months was from Reade Seligmann &#8211; &#8220;Mom, she picked me.&#8221;</p>
<p>The team, writ large, should not be treated like they were the topsiders on the Amistad &#8211; such a hyperbolic response has done nothing but incite one part of the community and desensitize another.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t get anything I write or say onto ink. So I blog, and hope that in the act Mr. Evans, and Mr. Finnerty, and Mr. Seligmann know that there are those of us who will say THIS cannot stand.</p>
<p>these men are NOT those forces &#8211; these men are individuals deserving of our ear for their story and our pens for their rights. </i></p>
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		<title>By: Louise B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Louise B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 18:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Reade, 20, was being indicted for first-degree rape, kidnapping and sexual offense. He had a strong alibiâ€”cell-phone records would show he was busy calling his girlfriend at the time the alleged crime was taking placeâ€”but the D.A. declined to hear it.&quot;

Maybe I&#039;m missing the point, but to those who say the boys should learn a lesson about lying down with fleas and who you associate with--it seems to me, when a boy has ATM receipts and photos showing he wasn&#039;t at the house, he was already doing the right thing by not associating with this behavior.  What more could he do to avoid contact other than NOT be at the house?

(I&#039;m not sure if this is the right one of the 3 who wasn&#039;t at the house during the alleged rape.)

Louise B</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Reade, 20, was being indicted for first-degree rape, kidnapping and sexual offense. He had a strong alibiâ€”cell-phone records would show he was busy calling his girlfriend at the time the alleged crime was taking placeâ€”but the D.A. declined to hear it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m missing the point, but to those who say the boys should learn a lesson about lying down with fleas and who you associate with&#8211;it seems to me, when a boy has ATM receipts and photos showing he wasn&#8217;t at the house, he was already doing the right thing by not associating with this behavior.  What more could he do to avoid contact other than NOT be at the house?</p>
<p>(I&#8217;m not sure if this is the right one of the 3 who wasn&#8217;t at the house during the alleged rape.)</p>
<p>Louise B</p>
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		<title>By: Gayle Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gayle Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 17:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently published a copy of my letter to the N.C. Bar on my blog.  I actually received a response dated 1/2/07.  I quote the pertinent part:  &quot;We expect that our case against Mr. Nifong will be tried publicly in 2007.  A specific date for that trial has not yet been set.&quot;

Clearly they are serious about these charges.  Bar Associations are notoriously dainty when commenting on ethics and disciplinary matters.  I live in hope!

&lt;em&gt;Thanks, Gayle. Feel free to include links to posts in your comments. I don&#039;t mind. ;)- Admin&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently published a copy of my letter to the N.C. Bar on my blog.  I actually received a response dated 1/2/07.  I quote the pertinent part:  &#8220;We expect that our case against Mr. Nifong will be tried publicly in 2007.  A specific date for that trial has not yet been set.&#8221;</p>
<p>Clearly they are serious about these charges.  Bar Associations are notoriously dainty when commenting on ethics and disciplinary matters.  I live in hope!</p>
<p><em>Thanks, Gayle. Feel free to include links to posts in your comments. I don&#8217;t mind. <img src='http://lashawnbarber.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> - Admin</em></p>
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