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	<title>Comments on: This Christian Isn&#8217;t &#8216;Torn&#8217; Over Illegals</title>
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		<title>By: Tim Donnelly</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2007/01/16/this-christian-isnt-torn-over-illegals/comment-page-2/#comment-83928</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Donnelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 21:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>La Shawn:  It is funny how as Christians, we seem to have doubt that life begins at conception, and we ridicule the pathetic and arbitrary attempts by opponents who say it begins at 6 weeks or 9 weeks or 9 1/2 weeks.  

Christ was a warrior messiah.  He took a whip and drove evil out of the temple.  He died out of self-sacrificial love, not weakness.

Let me tell you that I have been to the front lines in this war on our borders, and none of your readers has the faintest idea what is really going on.

We sat out in the dark, on the US side of the border, and heard a woman screaming as she was raped by her coyote (smuggler).  There was nothing we could do in the pitch darkness, without the ability to see, and not knowing if the armed drug smugglers we were staking out would shoot us.  Until you see the evil brought about by this system that can only be described as 21st Century slavery is ended, every Christian who supports it or profits off it will have to answer for his/her sin.

Importing people to work for a pittance and live in subhuman conditions ought to be a capital crime.  The fact that 25% of the more than 24,000 people who cross our borders every day (that&#039;s 1,000 per hour, or between 8 &amp; 9 million for the year 2007).  Those statistics are based on the most conservative estimates using Time Magazines methodology from 2004, when the figure was 3.5 million for the year.

It is not very Christian, nor very neighborly to support an illegal act that results in the collapse of your education and health care infrastructure, or that brings a child-rapist to the illegal bunkhouse next door to an American family&#039;s home, whose only crime is being poor.  When Christians discuss this issue, I just wish they would arm themselves with facts before they bring emotion and start slinging guilt around.  

The facts are incontrovertible that allowing an illegal invasion of the United States will destroy the American Southwest, and very probably wipe out the freedoms we American Christians enjoy, as Muslim Extremists blend in with the so-called &quot;innocent&quot; illegal aliens, and eventually proselytize them.  It is not a stretch to picture a revolt in Los Angeles, whose population is comprised of over 50% illegal aliens.  At the rate of influx and births, it will be 80% illegal alien within a decade.  Whoever has the ear of the illegal alien, who will likely have been granted citizenship by the current politicians, will control California.  None of this bodes well for the citizens who live in Southern California now, nor will it improve the life of the poor alien, but it is well on the way to wiping out everything that was once good in Southern California.   If you do not believe me, come visit.  Oh, and for any who wish to judge me a &quot;racist&quot; because I have a strong viewpoint, I am the only Caucasian in my extended family, and all of them agree with my viewpoint.   I am also married to a woman whose family immigrated LEGALLY &amp; every one of them became Americans.

I wish that everything I had written here was not true, but it is, and it saddens me.

God Bless and Godspeed.

Tim Donnelly
Former California State Director
Minuteman Civil Defense Corps</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>La Shawn:  It is funny how as Christians, we seem to have doubt that life begins at conception, and we ridicule the pathetic and arbitrary attempts by opponents who say it begins at 6 weeks or 9 weeks or 9 1/2 weeks.  </p>
<p>Christ was a warrior messiah.  He took a whip and drove evil out of the temple.  He died out of self-sacrificial love, not weakness.</p>
<p>Let me tell you that I have been to the front lines in this war on our borders, and none of your readers has the faintest idea what is really going on.</p>
<p>We sat out in the dark, on the US side of the border, and heard a woman screaming as she was raped by her coyote (smuggler).  There was nothing we could do in the pitch darkness, without the ability to see, and not knowing if the armed drug smugglers we were staking out would shoot us.  Until you see the evil brought about by this system that can only be described as 21st Century slavery is ended, every Christian who supports it or profits off it will have to answer for his/her sin.</p>
<p>Importing people to work for a pittance and live in subhuman conditions ought to be a capital crime.  The fact that 25% of the more than 24,000 people who cross our borders every day (that&#8217;s 1,000 per hour, or between 8 &amp; 9 million for the year 2007).  Those statistics are based on the most conservative estimates using Time Magazines methodology from 2004, when the figure was 3.5 million for the year.</p>
<p>It is not very Christian, nor very neighborly to support an illegal act that results in the collapse of your education and health care infrastructure, or that brings a child-rapist to the illegal bunkhouse next door to an American family&#8217;s home, whose only crime is being poor.  When Christians discuss this issue, I just wish they would arm themselves with facts before they bring emotion and start slinging guilt around.  </p>
<p>The facts are incontrovertible that allowing an illegal invasion of the United States will destroy the American Southwest, and very probably wipe out the freedoms we American Christians enjoy, as Muslim Extremists blend in with the so-called &#8220;innocent&#8221; illegal aliens, and eventually proselytize them.  It is not a stretch to picture a revolt in Los Angeles, whose population is comprised of over 50% illegal aliens.  At the rate of influx and births, it will be 80% illegal alien within a decade.  Whoever has the ear of the illegal alien, who will likely have been granted citizenship by the current politicians, will control California.  None of this bodes well for the citizens who live in Southern California now, nor will it improve the life of the poor alien, but it is well on the way to wiping out everything that was once good in Southern California.   If you do not believe me, come visit.  Oh, and for any who wish to judge me a &#8220;racist&#8221; because I have a strong viewpoint, I am the only Caucasian in my extended family, and all of them agree with my viewpoint.   I am also married to a woman whose family immigrated LEGALLY &amp; every one of them became Americans.</p>
<p>I wish that everything I had written here was not true, but it is, and it saddens me.</p>
<p>God Bless and Godspeed.</p>
<p>Tim Donnelly<br />
Former California State Director<br />
Minuteman Civil Defense Corps</p>
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		<title>By: Bella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly at the rate things are going in 5 years Spanish will be mandatory to getting a decent job.  I.e, I&#039;m listening to a Learn Spanish Fast CD will I work.  Imagine in America</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly at the rate things are going in 5 years Spanish will be mandatory to getting a decent job.  I.e, I&#8217;m listening to a Learn Spanish Fast CD will I work.  Imagine in America</p>
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		<title>By: Gayle Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gayle Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am NOT torn about enforcing the law of the United States of America - even a scintilla.  My maternal grandparents came to this country seeking opportunity for their children LEGALLY and in the course of so doing, gave up lives of comfort in their homeland.  My grandfather was university educated and a diplomat who spoke 18 languages and my grandmother was the very pampered daughter of a regional mayor.  They came over here with very little money, a couple of kids and settled in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania where, to support their (eventual) 12 children, HE worked as a steelworker and SHE took in dressmaking for wealthy women.  And from what my mother remembered of them (she was the baby of 12 and was orphaned at 14), they apparently never regretted their choice or the extreme hardships it took to make that major life change.

So yes, it is an insult to my grandparents (everyone&#039;s grandparents) who gave up EVERYTHING to give their children a better life - and who did so in full compliance with the law - to allow other criminals (that&#039;s what you are when you break the law) to sidestep the valid Federal laws regarding entrance across OUR border.

Mexico doesn&#039;t have the right to tell us who can or cannot come into this country, nor does Canada.  This is our country, PAID FOR BY OUR TAXES, and it&#039;s our decision - nobody else&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am NOT torn about enforcing the law of the United States of America &#8211; even a scintilla.  My maternal grandparents came to this country seeking opportunity for their children LEGALLY and in the course of so doing, gave up lives of comfort in their homeland.  My grandfather was university educated and a diplomat who spoke 18 languages and my grandmother was the very pampered daughter of a regional mayor.  They came over here with very little money, a couple of kids and settled in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania where, to support their (eventual) 12 children, HE worked as a steelworker and SHE took in dressmaking for wealthy women.  And from what my mother remembered of them (she was the baby of 12 and was orphaned at 14), they apparently never regretted their choice or the extreme hardships it took to make that major life change.</p>
<p>So yes, it is an insult to my grandparents (everyone&#8217;s grandparents) who gave up EVERYTHING to give their children a better life &#8211; and who did so in full compliance with the law &#8211; to allow other criminals (that&#8217;s what you are when you break the law) to sidestep the valid Federal laws regarding entrance across OUR border.</p>
<p>Mexico doesn&#8217;t have the right to tell us who can or cannot come into this country, nor does Canada.  This is our country, PAID FOR BY OUR TAXES, and it&#8217;s our decision &#8211; nobody else&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: SolShine7</title>
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		<dc:creator>SolShine7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 02:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You made some good points but I&#039;m going to have to respectfully disagree with you. I won&#039;t go long into explaining why, but here&#039;s a poem that I wrote that pretty much sums it up with the whole loving your neighbor as yourself point (and Mexico is our neighbor). 

&quot;Mexico Walls&quot;

The walls you build will turn on you
Brick and stone will crumble you
How you laugh but you shall cry
How you cheer at their exile
When the lights blast through the sky
You will remember their sighs
And as you run and plee for them to take you in
They&#039;ll remember your lack of compassion

Mexico walls
Don&#039;t build those walls
Mr. President 
Don&#039;t build those walls
Brick and stone will crumble you
The walls you build will turn on you

We&#039;ve got a war in Iraq
And Israel might need us too
Why invest our money 
In concrete when people need food?

Mexico walls
Don&#039;t build those walls
Congress
Don&#039;t build those walls
Brick and stone will crumble you
The walls you build will turn on you

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You made some good points but I&#8217;m going to have to respectfully disagree with you. I won&#8217;t go long into explaining why, but here&#8217;s a poem that I wrote that pretty much sums it up with the whole loving your neighbor as yourself point (and Mexico is our neighbor). </p>
<p>&#8220;Mexico Walls&#8221;</p>
<p>The walls you build will turn on you<br />
Brick and stone will crumble you<br />
How you laugh but you shall cry<br />
How you cheer at their exile<br />
When the lights blast through the sky<br />
You will remember their sighs<br />
And as you run and plee for them to take you in<br />
They&#8217;ll remember your lack of compassion</p>
<p>Mexico walls<br />
Don&#8217;t build those walls<br />
Mr. President<br />
Don&#8217;t build those walls<br />
Brick and stone will crumble you<br />
The walls you build will turn on you</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve got a war in Iraq<br />
And Israel might need us too<br />
Why invest our money<br />
In concrete when people need food?</p>
<p>Mexico walls<br />
Don&#8217;t build those walls<br />
Congress<br />
Don&#8217;t build those walls<br />
Brick and stone will crumble you<br />
The walls you build will turn on you</p>
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		<title>By: deborah</title>
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		<dc:creator>deborah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2007 23:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LaShawn I have been trying to get my family nenbers to see exactly what you have just stated about the immigration issue. My brother who was in the army and worked on the border for about a year says he was against the lawbreakers when he worked there, but now that hes out and knows some of them, hes changed his mind. I asked him what about those who are trying to get in this country legally, filling out the paperwork, waiting their turn only to be pushed back further down the line. He had no answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LaShawn I have been trying to get my family nenbers to see exactly what you have just stated about the immigration issue. My brother who was in the army and worked on the border for about a year says he was against the lawbreakers when he worked there, but now that hes out and knows some of them, hes changed his mind. I asked him what about those who are trying to get in this country legally, filling out the paperwork, waiting their turn only to be pushed back further down the line. He had no answer.</p>
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		<title>By: Lance Sjogren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lance Sjogren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2007 00:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not a Christian, so I am not so concerned with what is the correct Christian interpretation of the illegal immigration problem.

Instead, what I view as the relevant considerations are:  What policy is in the best interest of the American people.

On that basis, I believe that the laws against illegal immigration must be strictly enforced, and no amnesty.

I would be amenable to a small number of illegal aliens with extremely mitigating circumstances be given amnesty, but the vast majority in my view must be required to return to their home country.

People often invoke the issue of fairness, but it gets you nowhere on this issue.  Is it fair that most Americans have a materially abundant life while many in the third world do not?  No it is not.  But is it fair that people who live in close proximity to the U.S. who are far from the neediest in the world, come into our nation in violation of our laws? 

If we had a permissive immigration policy that was based on FAIRNESS, then the illegal aliens currently in the country would not be allowed to stay, rather we would admit the far more needy people from places like Uganda and Bangladesh.


So fairness is a nonstarter on this issue.


I suggest a better basis for deciding policy is to determine what is in the public interest.

In my view the public interest dictates a very low flow of legal immigration and strict enforcement against illegal immigration.  I believe a more permissive policy will lead to anarchy and disintegration of our society.

And as far as America&#039;s right to enforce immigration laws, those who question that right are saying that Americans do not deserve the same right to self-determination that international human rights standards say ALL HUMAN BEINGS are entitled to.

And toleration of illegal immigration is not humanitarian.  I believe the United States ought to do far more to help the world&#039;s poor, but you can bet if our nation disintegrates due to the anarchy caused by illegal immigration, then we will no longer be a nation that is in a position to help other human beings in need.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not a Christian, so I am not so concerned with what is the correct Christian interpretation of the illegal immigration problem.</p>
<p>Instead, what I view as the relevant considerations are:  What policy is in the best interest of the American people.</p>
<p>On that basis, I believe that the laws against illegal immigration must be strictly enforced, and no amnesty.</p>
<p>I would be amenable to a small number of illegal aliens with extremely mitigating circumstances be given amnesty, but the vast majority in my view must be required to return to their home country.</p>
<p>People often invoke the issue of fairness, but it gets you nowhere on this issue.  Is it fair that most Americans have a materially abundant life while many in the third world do not?  No it is not.  But is it fair that people who live in close proximity to the U.S. who are far from the neediest in the world, come into our nation in violation of our laws? </p>
<p>If we had a permissive immigration policy that was based on FAIRNESS, then the illegal aliens currently in the country would not be allowed to stay, rather we would admit the far more needy people from places like Uganda and Bangladesh.</p>
<p>So fairness is a nonstarter on this issue.</p>
<p>I suggest a better basis for deciding policy is to determine what is in the public interest.</p>
<p>In my view the public interest dictates a very low flow of legal immigration and strict enforcement against illegal immigration.  I believe a more permissive policy will lead to anarchy and disintegration of our society.</p>
<p>And as far as America&#8217;s right to enforce immigration laws, those who question that right are saying that Americans do not deserve the same right to self-determination that international human rights standards say ALL HUMAN BEINGS are entitled to.</p>
<p>And toleration of illegal immigration is not humanitarian.  I believe the United States ought to do far more to help the world&#8217;s poor, but you can bet if our nation disintegrates due to the anarchy caused by illegal immigration, then we will no longer be a nation that is in a position to help other human beings in need.</p>
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		<title>By: joeyindc</title>
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		<dc:creator>joeyindc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 08:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christian groups in this country have in the past and continue to involve themselves with immigration law and have been sponsoring refugees, bringing them here, hooking them up with welfare benefits, supplying them with the tools they need to make sure the U.S. provides for the education, health services, legal help, and translators.  This has been proven to be very bad for communities that host these people.  These christian groups are doing an injustice to the U.S. citizens by forcing the extra costs and the hostility created by putting people from different cultures and beliefs into areas who can&#039;t afford to absorb them.  The Hmongs in WI. is a good example, The romanian gypsies, the Somolians and Sudanese are too.  These people come with their old ways of doing things and their cultural beliefs don&#039;t always abide with American laws.  Honor killings, Female circumcision, forced marriages, slavory, and oppression of women is thriving in their communities within the U.S. communities.  U.S. cities are forced to financially support these people and provide for their needs, the churches aren&#039;t.  

Illegal aliens are coming here in masses and are taking advantage of every loophole they can.  They are demanding to be given the same benefits that are supposed to be for citizens.  They are segrating themselves in large communities and showing disrespect for the American language, culture, laws and traditions and at the same time demanding that we respect their need to preserve their heritage.  When an American does this, we are called racists.  They feel entitled to our resources and ensure this by having U.S. born children.

This behavoir is new,  the immigrants of yesterday knew they had a responsibility to learn the American ways.  They didn&#039;t come here uninvited and expect us to assimilate to them, nor did they come here pretending they are doing us the favor of being here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christian groups in this country have in the past and continue to involve themselves with immigration law and have been sponsoring refugees, bringing them here, hooking them up with welfare benefits, supplying them with the tools they need to make sure the U.S. provides for the education, health services, legal help, and translators.  This has been proven to be very bad for communities that host these people.  These christian groups are doing an injustice to the U.S. citizens by forcing the extra costs and the hostility created by putting people from different cultures and beliefs into areas who can&#8217;t afford to absorb them.  The Hmongs in WI. is a good example, The romanian gypsies, the Somolians and Sudanese are too.  These people come with their old ways of doing things and their cultural beliefs don&#8217;t always abide with American laws.  Honor killings, Female circumcision, forced marriages, slavory, and oppression of women is thriving in their communities within the U.S. communities.  U.S. cities are forced to financially support these people and provide for their needs, the churches aren&#8217;t.  </p>
<p>Illegal aliens are coming here in masses and are taking advantage of every loophole they can.  They are demanding to be given the same benefits that are supposed to be for citizens.  They are segrating themselves in large communities and showing disrespect for the American language, culture, laws and traditions and at the same time demanding that we respect their need to preserve their heritage.  When an American does this, we are called racists.  They feel entitled to our resources and ensure this by having U.S. born children.</p>
<p>This behavoir is new,  the immigrants of yesterday knew they had a responsibility to learn the American ways.  They didn&#8217;t come here uninvited and expect us to assimilate to them, nor did they come here pretending they are doing us the favor of being here.</p>
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		<title>By: mj</title>
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		<dc:creator>mj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 03:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know what I believe about illegal immigration, but since I teach some illegal immigrants, then I just have to put it aside to show them love, no matter how they got here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know what I believe about illegal immigration, but since I teach some illegal immigrants, then I just have to put it aside to show them love, no matter how they got here.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam's Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam's Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 06:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Christians and Illegal Immigration&lt;/strong&gt;

LaShawn Barber throws down the gauntlet on those who are playing the Christian card in the illegal immigration debate:

Some people make the ludicrous argument that I can’t speak out against illegal “immigration” because I am a Christian. I expect su...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Christians and Illegal Immigration</strong></p>
<p>LaShawn Barber throws down the gauntlet on those who are playing the Christian card in the illegal immigration debate:</p>
<p>Some people make the ludicrous argument that I can’t speak out against illegal “immigration” because I am a Christian. I expect su&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jan</title>
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		<dc:creator>jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 23:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In all fairness, despite all, I really really admire the work ethic of many of the illegals who come to this country. Having worked for decades with impoverised individuals from Third World countries, there is much to be said for &quot;being hungry&quot; as an impetus to hard work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In all fairness, despite all, I really really admire the work ethic of many of the illegals who come to this country. Having worked for decades with impoverised individuals from Third World countries, there is much to be said for &#8220;being hungry&#8221; as an impetus to hard work.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 21:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jan, you&#039;re right about illegals making a better life on the backs of AMERICAN families.

WSJ just had a front page article today about a chicken-processing plant in Stillmore, GA. It&#039;s a long and in-depth article about a complex subject and I certainly can&#039;t do justice to it here.

In short, ICE raided the Crider plant causing them to lose 75% of the 900 workforce.  

Since then, Crider bumped wages up by more than a dollar and offered free transportation from nearby towns and even offered free rooms at the company owned dorms.  As a result, a lot of the low-skilled AMERICANS have been hired, taking some 200 off the unemployment line. Not since the &#039;90s have blacks been in the majority at 70%.

But, there&#039;s always a but.  The issue is complex for Crider.  Not only did the illegals work for less, they worked harder and productivity was high 24/7.  The problems with the black workforce is that while some are grateful for steady work with lots of overtime, there are a bunch of whiners crying about how much they should be paid and a high turnover.  Also productivity is dramatically lower, causing the legal hispanics to resent most of the newly hired blacks.  

No matter what, immigration&#039;s effect on the workforce is not going to be easy, at the same time, having an open border will make it that much harder to come to a happy solution for all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jan, you&#8217;re right about illegals making a better life on the backs of AMERICAN families.</p>
<p>WSJ just had a front page article today about a chicken-processing plant in Stillmore, GA. It&#8217;s a long and in-depth article about a complex subject and I certainly can&#8217;t do justice to it here.</p>
<p>In short, ICE raided the Crider plant causing them to lose 75% of the 900 workforce.  </p>
<p>Since then, Crider bumped wages up by more than a dollar and offered free transportation from nearby towns and even offered free rooms at the company owned dorms.  As a result, a lot of the low-skilled AMERICANS have been hired, taking some 200 off the unemployment line. Not since the &#8217;90s have blacks been in the majority at 70%.</p>
<p>But, there&#8217;s always a but.  The issue is complex for Crider.  Not only did the illegals work for less, they worked harder and productivity was high 24/7.  The problems with the black workforce is that while some are grateful for steady work with lots of overtime, there are a bunch of whiners crying about how much they should be paid and a high turnover.  Also productivity is dramatically lower, causing the legal hispanics to resent most of the newly hired blacks.  </p>
<p>No matter what, immigration&#8217;s effect on the workforce is not going to be easy, at the same time, having an open border will make it that much harder to come to a happy solution for all.</p>
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		<title>By: jan</title>
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		<dc:creator>jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 20:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very few folks have a problem with individuals trying to make a better life for their families. Contray to the opinion of the perpetually aggrieved, race is not the issue here. At the end of the day, the problem is that individuals are trying to make a better life for their families ON THE BACKS OF AMERICAN FAMILIES while engaging in illegal behavior to do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very few folks have a problem with individuals trying to make a better life for their families. Contray to the opinion of the perpetually aggrieved, race is not the issue here. At the end of the day, the problem is that individuals are trying to make a better life for their families ON THE BACKS OF AMERICAN FAMILIES while engaging in illegal behavior to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 19:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>La Shawn,

In your previous post about Tancredo, you wrote:

&quot;Rep. Tom Tancredo, a man who should but will never be president of the United States.&quot;

Never say &quot;never&quot;.  The &quot;New media&quot; can override the mantra of the old media and the party establishment types.  Remember Harriet Miers.  It CAN be done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>La Shawn,</p>
<p>In your previous post about Tancredo, you wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;Rep. Tom Tancredo, a man who should but will never be president of the United States.&#8221;</p>
<p>Never say &#8220;never&#8221;.  The &#8220;New media&#8221; can override the mantra of the old media and the party establishment types.  Remember Harriet Miers.  It CAN be done.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 16:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Suek, good point about the RC in SA.  I think the biggest problem is the &#039;liberation theory&#039; espoused by many priests which is fundamentally socialist.  This crackpot theory depends on class warfare and jealousy of the haves by the have-nots.  

Perhaps the Pope ought whack them upside the head and have the priest start exerting pressure for real reforms on their homefronts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suek, good point about the RC in SA.  I think the biggest problem is the &#8216;liberation theory&#8217; espoused by many priests which is fundamentally socialist.  This crackpot theory depends on class warfare and jealousy of the haves by the have-nots.  </p>
<p>Perhaps the Pope ought whack them upside the head and have the priest start exerting pressure for real reforms on their homefronts.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 15:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been following the illegal immigration issue for about 5 years now. Though it appears to have been going on for a great deal longer, it hit home with me when I was at a little league game in a small community in Kansas when a bleacher full of people speaking nothing but Spanish were cheering for the other team. What the heck! This went on for the entire game. Where did these people come from?  Why aren&#039;t they speaking English? This is America. All these types of knee jerk reactions. I am no bigot or racist, however this struck me as very strange, living in mid-America. From that point on I began to notice more and  more &quot;foreigners&quot; during my daily activities; mostly &quot;hispanic looking&quot; people. Working in the city, I would come into contact with numerous ethnicities and was not troubled by it. Nice people, could communicate. As I studied this issue over the next few years, I began to become anxious about what I was reading. To my amazement this had been going on for over 20 years. Anxiety turned to outrage in the Spring of 2005. Mexican flags? Cries for amnesty? Scriptures tells me to turn the other cheek but does not tell me what to do if I am struck again and again. We Americans are a good and loving people who are being taken advantage of by all that would come here illegally. Sorry to say it but it is mostly the hispanics. The radicals amongst them claim that the U.S. is their own and we should leave. Those less radical just snicker and probably believe the same thing. They know that they have the blessings of the business community and will not be required to assimilate. Coming from a country where corruption and bad dealings is a means of survival, they bring these same &quot;family values&quot; with them. Christian values are only applied to each other. I pray not, but, the coming amnesty legislation forced down our throats by the majority in the house and senate will cause a stain on what it is to be an American citizen. It will dilute our vote and the values we cherish will diminish. Sad words from a sad American. Someone please prove me wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been following the illegal immigration issue for about 5 years now. Though it appears to have been going on for a great deal longer, it hit home with me when I was at a little league game in a small community in Kansas when a bleacher full of people speaking nothing but Spanish were cheering for the other team. What the heck! This went on for the entire game. Where did these people come from?  Why aren&#8217;t they speaking English? This is America. All these types of knee jerk reactions. I am no bigot or racist, however this struck me as very strange, living in mid-America. From that point on I began to notice more and  more &#8220;foreigners&#8221; during my daily activities; mostly &#8220;hispanic looking&#8221; people. Working in the city, I would come into contact with numerous ethnicities and was not troubled by it. Nice people, could communicate. As I studied this issue over the next few years, I began to become anxious about what I was reading. To my amazement this had been going on for over 20 years. Anxiety turned to outrage in the Spring of 2005. Mexican flags? Cries for amnesty? Scriptures tells me to turn the other cheek but does not tell me what to do if I am struck again and again. We Americans are a good and loving people who are being taken advantage of by all that would come here illegally. Sorry to say it but it is mostly the hispanics. The radicals amongst them claim that the U.S. is their own and we should leave. Those less radical just snicker and probably believe the same thing. They know that they have the blessings of the business community and will not be required to assimilate. Coming from a country where corruption and bad dealings is a means of survival, they bring these same &#8220;family values&#8221; with them. Christian values are only applied to each other. I pray not, but, the coming amnesty legislation forced down our throats by the majority in the house and senate will cause a stain on what it is to be an American citizen. It will dilute our vote and the values we cherish will diminish. Sad words from a sad American. Someone please prove me wrong.</p>
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