Much of this spiraling dynamic is due to the fact that liberals not only unrelentingly defend/make excuses for black social pathologies but blame them overwhelmingly on whites, while occasionally paying lipservice to personal responsibility [right before they take personal responsibility back away to replace it with blaming others.]

Meanwhile, there is little discussion to be had on white social pathologies because NO ONE defends them AND there isn’t another race to blame. ERGO, IT’S A NON-STARTER AS A DISCUSSION.

This has to be one of the greatest ironies of all time.

It isn’t conservatives who are obsessed with problems in the black community…It is liberals who keep problems festering in the forefront of everyone’s consciousness. You cannot blame folks for responding to never-ending demands for their paychecks.

To me, big government solutions have been the biggest fulcrum for divisive racial consciousness.

Most conservatives are far more concerned with making a living and then trying to hang onto what they have earned. While far more generous than liberals with the hard earned fruits of their OWN labor, conservatives reject being FORCED to pay for flawed solutions. Conservatives hold the concept of freedom to be very dear.

Questioning the status-quo and raising the consciousness of the people was an affront to those who lived to have preeminence over other men.

You can be a politician and be a righteous person, though its rare and recommended.

There are things that need to get done in the republic that just need to get done and only ENEMIES of the republic should suffer reproach. Liberals and conservatives could indeed fluctuate between friends and enemies of the republic, by their words and deeds.

Compromise.

Winston Churchill (paraphrasing) said that people sleep soundly at night while rough men are out doing violence against men who seek to do us harm.

Compromise. It’s not THAT deep, when you consider the context.

You are not the arbiter of what MEANS needs to be taken to get things done in the republic.

You call it INVECTING, I call it INVEIGHING.

As well, I thought this was a discussion forum and not a Think Tank on political policy. I think that what’s good for the goose, on a blog for of carnal people, COULD be good for the gander. You all slide in dirty, suspect insults regarding liberals and non-whites and expect people to be okay with it, huh? Greg’s sentiments are ‘utopian’, huh? Perhaps because he’s naive and doesn’t understand the ‘game’ of politics huh? As if the people and methods of the ‘game’ are so virtuous.

And throwing the word “hate” around, from my observation, is so pedestrian. Hate and anger are not an affront to the Almighty. People just don’t like their pet persuasions to fall under critique.

The naive mind may believe that this is not Caesar’s realm, but that naiveté is both blessing and curse, with compromise.

Alas, I say that each method has it purpose, yet the virtue in politics IS that compromise is the virtue while itself being non-existent.

That has been my point all along.

You need not answer Gabe or anyone else with a comment like this: ” Trying to engage people on a higher conciousness is pointless.”

“Higher consciousness” denotes an elitist, judgmental, superiority. If it is not, then it is pure innuendo and you owe the person you are dismissing a clear set of words that explain why he is not worthy of your time and wisdom.

Waiting for a Pied Piper politician to “bring us together” and to orchestrate the “greater good of our society” is plain ignorance and borders on madness. Perhaps you would agree as this statement of yours indicates: “It would be nice to see people look to each other for solutions and not our so called political leaders.”

Your list, however, perplexes me. Every society at every time in history has faced serious challenges. In fact, far more serious challenges than this list enumerates.

There is an old French aphorism which translates roughly: “Everything that begins in mystery, ends in politics.” I know of no statement of this fundamental truth that is more concise.

Jesus was crucified because of politics. Politics, religious or temporal, is the cause of all wars. Government in its most rudimentary form or its most sophisticated embodiment is the result of politics and exists on the oxygen of politics.

Politics is the lifeblood that created our Declaration of Independence, the Constitution and all the great advances of science, philosophy, the arts, religion, wealth and living standards.

“People coming together” do so as a political force. It is not out of a shared sense of utopian ideals.

The “greater good for the society” requires the society to engage in the mystery solving of the meaning of “good” and then to set the course for achieving it. That is called “politics.” Would you believe that there is some manner to bring 300 million Americans together for a “greater good” conference that would end in harmony?

I said in #90: You are speaking in tongues. “When are we all going to say enough and join together for the greater good of our society?”

You have answered in tongues: affordable energy, national infrastructure, educational standards, obesity, health care, breakdown of the family, immorality, economic decline. These are all very much major players in the current national arena.

You seem to be looking for a dictatorship of the benevolent proletariat where everyone acts in accord with each other’s common needs: a sort of national commune of thoughtful and inherently sharing people. The Amish, the Shakers, the Amana colony, Oak Farm, Yogaville, the Millerites, Jonestown, David Koresh and friends, are all tiny examples of this type of solution.

You will not be “speaking in tongues” when you state your basic strategy for achieving the way you would organize the people to achieve the solutions to the problems you enumerate.

Another poster on this site is full of invective for all manner or people, the way they act and what they think. Fine. Hate is cheap: what is the pathway to reforming all those souls who seem to be so despicable? Talking about “coming together” is both a meaningless platitude and an innuendo that there is a “clear pathway” if one would only “wake up.”

And, if you have a formula for clean, friendly, productive politics, I beg you to articulate it.

I have not seen one person that denies the existence of any of those problems. In fact, everyone wants to solve those things. It’s the HOW that’s ultimately the problem. Because of ideological reasons, the nation approaches the solution to these problems from very different places, and thus produce vastly different ideas. We battle with each other because of it, and we’re right back around to politics. Someone’s going to have to WIN a battle in order for any one of the solutions to be attempted.

I thought I was being blatantly obvious and upfront. I am not here to espouse any religious or political innuendo. I was not trying to use any code words that speak to a small faction of society. It would be nice to see people look to each other for solutions and not our so called political leaders. I figured that a intelligent person such as yourself would inherently understand my term the greater good of society. I was wrong, so let me take some time to spell it out.

Americas issues:

1. Affordable energy; right now we are dependent on foreign countries to fuel our contry. We are capable of producing our own.

2. National infrastructure; presently our electrical grid, highways, bridges are sorely outdated and in need of repair.

3. Educational standards; America is no longer the leader in academics. Vast changes are needed to give all AMERICAN CHILDREN the competitive edge in the 21st century.

4. Obesity; too many of our countrymen are over-weight and healthy.

5. Health Care; do I really need to drone on about this debacle of a system?

6. Breakdown of the family; functional families are the key to a civil and stable society.

7. Immorality; our country is in constant upheaval due to immorality in our churches, businesses and political leaders.

8. Economic Decline; America no longer produces goods. A strong economy is based on production. Let’s figure out what we can produce again.

These are some of Americas problems. Feel free to add your own. These problems won’t be solved by the government or by religion. Let’s not forget faith without works is dead. These problems may seem huge, but when rational, intelligent, motivated AMERICANS come together our problems can be resolved. We won’t fix these and many other problems because of the paradigm of race, politics, religion and hubris. The last best hope of the world is fading away. I hope I’m dead so I don’t have to see it when it comes.

You are speaking in tongues. “When are we all going to say enough and join together for the greater good of our society?”

That statement does not lead, it does not follow, it does not walk by one’s side. It lacks any sort of definition.

Perhaps “the greater good of our society” is a remarkably plain set of code words to some tiny segment of Americans, but I strongly doubt that if you try it out at the mall, that many (if any) respondents will avoid politics in any of its forms and give the same answer.

If you are positing some sort of religious common union, then be open and honest about what you are preaching.

Leading by innuendo is neither productive nor honest.

One of the reasons the GOP gets hardly any Black votes is increadibly insipid and condescending analyses like this. As long as you conservatives continue to believe this b.s., you will continue to be relegated to the “also ran” pile where ALL minorities are concerned. See Dems get 90% of Black votes, and about 60 to 80% apiece of Hispanic, Asian and South Asian votes. This is consistent across ALL SOCIOECONOMIC CATAGORIES. As evidenced by my wife’s doctor, the Black woman with the Saab, the $400k brick home, and the kid in private school who votes straight Dem ticket. Or her partner, the Indian woman who would never dream of voting R. Do they vote that way, as LaShawn claims, because Dems “continue to promise black Americans bigger and better government programs and government handouts”. Of course not! It’s absurd.

The reason Blacks and Asians and Indians and Hispanics vote Dem is simple: the GOP, from 1968 up until VERY recently, made in clear that it was a party focused clearly on the issues of White America. There was no pretense at encouraging diversity; hell, the GOPers filed court briefs decrying diversity!

I see no mention in LaShawn’s post about Jesse Helms or Strom Thurmond, nothing about Trent Lott and “all these problems” that came when Thurmond did not win, nothing about Reagan’s welfare queens and his “states’ rights” speech in Philadelphia, Mississippi, where Goodmen, Cheney and Schwerner were martyred, nothing about David Duke, nothing about the actual history of some of the more unsavory racial appeals the GOP conducted. How can you ask why Blacks (like my wife’s doctor) vote Dem and not mention Willie Horton?

THAT, conservatives, is why Blacks don’t vote GOPer. And here is another hint: if you want Black votes in the future, portraying Obama, a magna cum laude graduate of Harvard Law, as an affirmative action recipient, a secret Muslim, or a racist? Not gonna help in the future quest for minority votes! Because how do you think my wife’s doctor and her partner think about such protrayals?

I’m glad you’re back on the political blogging scene again!

Jeremiah Wright said nothing about “evil whitey” in his sermons from 8 years ago.

He said that rich white people control America, which is only partly correct. It’s corporations, controlled by wealthy white men and so-called Jews that have controlling interests in America.

Those with the controlling interest do, and have done, good AND evil, respectively. Those deeds have impacted the lives of ALL Americans, and not just those of unknown African descent.

Ya’ll don’t get it. PEOPLE are no good…not just white people.