I could have told you that it was non-white women talking greasy about your relationship. LOL.

And like I wrote, I can give you all kinds of reasons why THEY do, and non-white men probably wouldn’t even care, but they wouldn’t be very nice at all. I WILL say that the reasons are more than likely very superficial (in any context) as opposed to a pure objection of the interracial aspect, and I say this not knowing what either of you look like. That’s all I’ll say about that.

As far as your childing having to self-identify with non-whites in order to gain acceptance, that’s NOT what I said. They will generally likely get that acceptance regardless of what they SAY but because of the facts of what they are.

The objection might be more about YOU, sir, than your child, as it will come into question whether you have the spiritual and emotional fortitude and strength to properly raise your child and give them the proper tools to live and function in a funky, hateful, and scandalous society such as this one. You have a unique challenge ahead of you, and I for one pray to Father Yahweh that any child of yours grows up to be more than outstanding and unique, in light of the spirit of this world.

You find this a profoundly absurd assumption? It seems common sense that if something is more accepted, there will be more of it occurring.

If this man believes that the simple act of tolerating different sexual orientations will result in more homosexual marriages…well, there’s really no sense in arguing with that kind of bizarre logic, is there?

He made absolutely no mention of tolerating different sexual orientations. Mr. Prager is very tolerant of homosexuals and even homosexuality. His argument was very narrowly directed at homosexual marriage.

You have already made up your mind about what others believe without actually taking the time to listen to the arguments presented.

That non-whites are less likely to oppress “others” while at the same time oppressing their own. And that even if it were so, that they would do it at a less/greater rate than whites. That non-white/white is the factor that would make any difference in the actions of the person wearing the skin.

2. What do so-called “Jews” have to do with anything?

Jews don’t have anything to do with anything in what I wrote. That response was to Dan, and I was simply identifying who wrote what I was quoting.

3. Do you understand what I wrote?

I think I do. But it’s always possible I have misunderstood you.

It may be somewhat sweeping, but no more so than assuming a number whites don’t feel that way just because you haven’t heard them. It goes to my point about the cultural aspects of a large percentage of black Americans. Let me be a bit politically incorrect here, a lot of brothers and sisters will just say anything they feel like, whenever they feel like, OUT LOUD, just because, and most whites won’t. Especially black women on the subject of interracial dating. Now admittedly it’s usually when the roles are reversed, black male/white female, but still. Though not acceptable or justified behavior, it is still understandable because more than any other segment of society they end up getting the short end of the stick when it comes to finding a mate.

A lot of this also has to do with the logistics also, meaning what part of the country you’re in and what neighborhood in that part of the country.
Walking down Broadway in NYC at noon, walking through Compton at midnight or walking through the local fair in some small town in Mississippi.

Probably because most of the whites who feel that way [about interracial marriage] keep their mouths shut.

But how do you know this? That is a very sweeping statement with no proof beyond your own experience. Which was the point of my first post – when someone makes a statement to the effect that “non-whites are more accepting of this-and-that” or “whites believe that-or-this” they are blowing smoke. Only blacks – specifically black women – more specifically, a tiny handful of black women – have made disparaging remarks to us about interracial marriage and disapproval of our relationship. Is it reasonable to conclude that all blacks feel that way, or even most of them? It sure does not make sense to reach that conclusion (talk about a small sample space).

DODDY said:

Nonetheless I didn’t say ALL non-whites embrace such a thing, but for those biracial children and families who self-identify as “black”, they find universal acceptance almost all of the time from non-whites.

That sent a chill up my spine. Does it mean that for our biological son to gain acceptance with non-whites he must “choose” to be black (whatever that means)? “We’ll accept you – if you join our side.” Is that what it has come to? What happened to “content of his character”? Just a 60s fad like hula-hoops and Woodstock?

I apologize, La Shawn. I should never have helped to drag this thread off-topic.

Well that much of what you said is true. It’s still not a true comparison. Opposition to the homosexual agenda is across all races, religions, countries and cultures worldwide. Some places and peoples may be more tolerant than others, but barely.

DAN:”But in 30 years, their arguments will be seen in the same light as those who fought to the end against the progress of the civil rights movement.”

Nobody can answer what the world will be like in 30 years, but if the most adamant faction of the people who support gay marriage have their way, it’s a scary thought to me.

Being black and heterosexual the comparison irks me. I’m sorry, but nobody sent ships to the “land of homosexuals”, captured them, shackeled them, shipped them to another country, enslaved them, tortured, raped and demeaned them. Then after deciding to free them, oppressed them through a set of laws, unequal segregation.

Just not the same thing, no matter how much you may want it to be.

David

OK… so this guy is making the profoundly absurd assumption that acceptance of something equates to more of it happening. If this man believes that the simple act of tolerating different sexual orientations will result in more homosexual marriages…well, there’s really no sense in arguing with that kind of bizarre logic, is there?

I’m heterosexual. If I learned in school that it was OK to marry anyone I wanted, I still would have married a woman. Because I was born that way. I reckon Mr. Prager would have, too.

None of this really matters. The shift is happening, the wheels are in motion. Folks can fight it all they want. But in 30 years, their arguments will be seen in the same light as those who fought to the end against the progress of the civil rights movement.

And the responses (a whopping 554 of them) prove my point.

Now THAT, Amy, is what’s amusing to me.

I’m not hating on Dennis Prager at all, but I prefer someone like Tim Wise who is truly one of Yahweh’s people and loves ALL of them by demonstration in word and deed.

1. What’s amusing about what I wrote?
2. What do so-called “Jews” have to do with anything?
3. Do you understand what I wrote?

“Those who advocate redefining marriage are saying that every religious and secular tradition is immoral. They have no problem doing this because they believe they are wiser and finer people than all the greatest Jewish, Christian and humanist thinkers who ever lived.

“But as objectionable as hubris is, false comparisons are worse. And there is no comparison between different races and the different genders. There are no inherent racial differences; there are significant differences between the sexes.

“To the extent that racial groups are different, they are only because their cultures differ. But a black man’s nature is not different from that of a white man, an Asian man, an Hispanic man…

“Comparing the prohibition of same-sex marriage to prohibiting interracial marriage is ultimately a way of declaring the moral superiority of proponents of same-sex marriage to proponents of keeping marriage defined as man-woman. And it is a way of avoiding hard issues such as whether we really want all children to grow up thinking it doesn’t matter if they marry a boy or a girl and whether we really want to abolish forever the ideal of husband-wife based family.

“Those who wish to redefine marriage for the first time in Jewish, Christian or secular humanist history may offer any honest arguments they wish. Comparing the prohibition of same-sex marriage to prohibiting interracial marriage is not one of them.”

ROFL! Of all the amusing things you’ve ever said on this blog, that’s got to be the funniest.

When it comes to CERTAIN things (not all things) MOST (not all) non-whites have a depth of soul that eclipses, all other ethnic groups, that ultimately hinders them from oppressing “others”, while simultaneously being on some ole crabs-in-the-barrel mess when it comes to their own persuasion.

It’s the craziest thing; and I believe it is emotionally and spiritually directly linked to slavery.

“Then why have the only negative comments that my wife and I have heard about our interracial marriage (my wife is a black African woman and I am a white American male) were from American blacks? Some have been quite up front in disparaging marriages between blacks and whites in general.”

I say:

With her being an AFRICAN woman and you being a white male, I could give you a myriad of reasons for people hating on you, but given the type of audience of people who post on this blog I’ll decline getting into it.

Nonetheless I didn’t say ALL non-whites embrace such a thing, but for those biracial children and families who self-identify as “black”, they find universal acceptance almost all of the time from non-whites. (Random haters aside, of course)

Probably because most of the whites who feel that way keep their mouths shut. “Certain” blacks are just outspoken about everything, it’s kind of a cultural way of being. What you don’t see “non-whites” doing is disowning family members and the like. Which happens to a lot of whites who date out of their race. I have a buddy who married a white girl and her father hasn’t spoken to her in 13 years, and has never met his two grand kids. Non-whites in America aren’t in the habit of that.

David