Joe Biden: The ‘Articulate’ and ‘Clean’ Man’s Choice

by La Shawn on August 23, 2008

in Comedy, Liberals - Obama

Joe BidenHelp! I’m up to my nose in boxes. Man. You never realize how much stuff you accumulate in 10 years. And the books. They’ve been breeding! (I’m moving to California, by the way.)

Anyway, I’m breaking briefly to blog about Barack Obama’s choice of vice presidential running mate, Senator Joe Biden. I couldn’t resist reminding you about Biden’s “controversial” remarks.

Last year, a journalist asked Biden what he thought of his opponent (Biden had recently announced his candidacy for president), and this is what he said about Obama:

“I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that’s a storybook, man.”

That one statement set off a sh**storm, and mainstream media and bloggers were right in the middle of it. Calling a black person “articulate” and “clean” conjures up negative racial stereotypes, which imply that black people normally aren’t well-spoken or hygienic. Yes, I know it’s ridiculous, but some black people can be overly sensitive about these things.

Of course, Biden said he didn’t mean anything by it, and some figured he probably meant that Obama was clean of scandals. Here’s Biden’s explanation:

“My mother has an expression clean as a whistle sharp as a tack, that was the context.”

Did he really mean that? I guess you have to take the man at his word, but it didn’t quell the criticism. Being called articulate and clean isn’t offensive per se, but as you’ve seen, people look for racism in the most innocuous of comments and fleeting of glances.

Read more about Obama’s pick at Memeorandum.

I thought the whole thing was funny, and I had more fun with it in Barack Obama: The Clean Negro.

Obviously, Biden’s remarks didn’t bother Obama. I wonder, though, why the infanticide-supporting “citizen of the world” didn’t choose a woman or another “minority” as his running mate. Theories?

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Chuck 08.23.08 at 9:57 am

The only reason I can think of is that he is was more concerned about “offsetting” his own lack of experience than the issues of change that he spouts about.

Chuck 08.23.08 at 9:58 am

Oh, enjoy Cali. My cousin lives out in Santa Clarita and our pastor’s daughter goes to Masters out there. They love it.

Mike Matthews 08.23.08 at 9:58 am

We here in Delaware are astonished. I spent two hours outside Joe’s house last night in the media frenzy and for once I found myself cheering our senior senator. His dumb comments aside, I think he could be just the fightin’ man Obama will need by his side to take on the right-wing noise machine.

I’m sure you agree, LaShawn!! ;-)

dianne 08.23.08 at 10:09 am

Easy question.

Why not another woman? Answ: Over-the-top anger by Hillary supporters, especially women.

Why not a minority? Answ: Too much for white America to handle at one time.

Jay 08.23.08 at 10:11 am

I think Biden is an odd choice, even if he’d never said that.

I’d missed that you were moving. That’s quite a leap! Imagine, all the way across the country. Oh wait… :>

steve matlock 08.23.08 at 10:21 am

Given that Biden is on video saying Obama is not qualified for the Presidency and also on video praising John McCain, this is an odd choice.

MarkJ 08.23.08 at 10:34 am

Joe Biden: God’s (and Obama’s but, hey, they’re one and the same aren’t they?) Gift to the G.O.P.

I’ve got a sawbuck that says that the moment Biden’s name was announced, McCain’s staff erupted in a spontaneous demonstration of cheering, aggressive fist-bumping, and champagne de-corking.

Conversely, those faint popping sounds you may still be hearing in the distance aren’t just those of bottles opening: nope, they’re Kossack and DU’er heads squishily exploding. What ever made them think that Mr. Hopenchange wasn’t going to throw them under his Greyhound as well?

rawdawgbuffalo 08.23.08 at 10:58 am
GusB 08.23.08 at 11:12 am

Biden is not the most exciting choice, but exciting is not really among the criteria for a VP, he is a solid American, and definitely not a yes-man.

Just remember, if it were about the VP, Dukakis would have been elected over Bush in ‘88. It still comes down to Obama v. McCain.

jb 08.23.08 at 12:18 pm

Unbelieveable!

Happiness is a thing called Joe
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives2/2008/08/021299.php

heliotrope 08.23.08 at 12:25 pm

I also wonder how the “hope” and “change” artist settled for a Washington, inside-the-beltway, business-as-usual, professional, career, no hope and no change politician.

But then, when you are an expert at talking the talk, it does not necessarily follow that you also walk the walk. Obama had the chance to name a woman or a minority or both, but he opted for the most prosaic of political formulas. How very underwhelming.

Biden overshadows Obama in dozens of ways. When you realize that Biden is lightweight linguini, it makes Obama look all that much weaker. He should have picked Michelle.

Mwalimu Daudi 08.23.08 at 12:33 pm

So it turns out that the post-racial candidate of hope and change is none of those things. Except a candidate, that is.

GusB 08.23.08 at 12:36 pm

It’s not surprising that someone who does not support Obama wouldn’t think much of his choice. But there isn’t really anyone who could have impressed you, is there?

I thought Cheney overshadowed Bush in 2000, and it was thought by many pundits at the time that Johnson overshadowed Kennedy, so if Biden does overshadow Obama, it’s not the first time something like that has happened. I would think you would admire Obama for selecting someone many would think is stronger than he, and not some yes-man who would shrink in the limelight.

Mwalimu Daudi 08.23.08 at 1:21 pm
Michael (SW OK) 08.23.08 at 1:27 pm

What if “Big Mc” would have choosen Joe Biden as a VP? All hell would have broke loose! Funny how that is.

Trish 08.23.08 at 1:43 pm

Of course, given Biden’s history, he probably stole the remark from someone else.

jb 08.23.08 at 2:04 pm

Ironic how we have a post-raical candidate and the enitire electorate is razor-focused upon identity/racial politics….

It reminds me of a scenario currently taking place in Austin. Our new city leader is black. Today’s headlines blared “Latino Group Upset with Ott.” As you read through the piece, a familiar tawdry picture emerges. Latino “leaders” are angered over whether they are getting their share of the pie, especially with a minority at the helm [which they had thought would ensure a certain amount of minority set aside contracts and other goodies.] Apparently, they found Ott to be arrogant [their words] and he felt they were unfairly indicting him [his words].

Hey, when life is all about counting racial beans, one better make sure the abacus adds up.

Meanwhile, the Asians in the city spend their time pursuing excellence, which translates into $$$]

The piece was not inspiring.

heliotrope 08.23.08 at 2:51 pm

GusB in #13 asks:

It’s not surprising that someone who does not support Obama wouldn’t think much of his choice. But there isn’t really anyone who could have impressed you, is there?

John Edwards: nope. Paternity problems; Bill Richardson: OK. Fairly level-headed professional politician; Dennis Kucinich: nope. He is whacko; Chris Dodd: nope. Hand in the cookie jar problem; Mike Gravel: left the Democrat party on 3/25/08; Joe Biden: nope. Mediocre Washington career politician with a totally mediocre mind; Hillary Clinton: OK, she has paid her dues and is transparent in her over-reaching ambition.

That covers the pool running for the nomination. Outside of these wannabees, the Democrat party certainly must have a number of liberals who can understand the people in fly-over America. That would not be John Dean.

Tell us GusB, who should John McCain pick?

GusB 08.23.08 at 3:28 pm

I’m not one to speculate. I’ll wait for McCain to make an announcement.

JB, Obama is not razor-focused on identity/racial politics. It may be that your racial antennae is very high.

jb 08.23.08 at 3:44 pm

JB, Obama is not razor-focused on identity/racial politics. It may be that your racial antennae is very high. [comment by gusB]

As I said that we have a post-racial candidate and an ELECTORATE that is razor-focused upon identity/racial politics, you are disagreeing with something that was not stated. Perhaps your reading antennae needs to be higher.

Jack 08.23.08 at 4:04 pm

Do the “Pro-Choice people ever stop to offer a prayer of thanks that THEIR PARENTS WERE “PRO-LIFE”?

A better question might be: “Do Left Wing Liberal Demorats even pray at all??”!!!

GusB 08.23.08 at 4:12 pm

The entire electorate is not focused on race, and
Obama is not running a campaign based on race.

Clearly, you are focused on race.

Hube 08.23.08 at 4:14 pm

I’m a Delawarean too and IMO Biden is as egotistical as Obama. Joe spoke at my [University of DE] graduation over 20 yrs. ago and I almost hurled.

These two deserve each other.

Hube 08.23.08 at 4:16 pm

Obama is not running a campaign based on race.

No, he just brings it up when it’s “convenient” (”I don’t look like all those other presidents …”) and his surrogates look for “code” to pounce on in everything McCain and his campaign say and do.

Hube 08.23.08 at 4:18 pm

BTW — I hope McCain picks Sarah Palin.

jb 08.23.08 at 4:27 pm

GusB,

I reiterate [not that facts matter]…I did not state that Obama is running a campaign focused upon race.

I also did not say that the electorate was focused upon race, alone.

Rather, I said that BO is touted as the POST-racial candidate [hint: post-racial means getting beyond race] AND the electorate is razor focused upon identity/racial politics. [hint: this means more than just race and includes special interest groups such as women]

Even the speculation about BO’s VP choice focused upon such issues as: 1) he needs to have a woman for VP to assuage women voters that he is sensitive to their concerns 2) he needs to select a white male to assuage white voters that he is sensitive to their concerns. etc. etc. etc.

The commentary surrounding his VP choice, as well as the commentary surrounding comments about Bill Clinton, as well as commentary about any commentary from the McCain campaign as well as commentary in general has swirled around race.

As I mentioned, perhaps you need to become more razor focused upon what is actually stated.

heliotrope 08.23.08 at 5:15 pm

I watched Obama introduce Biden in Springfield, Illinois and I watched Biden give his maiden voyage V-P nominee speech.

As a pilot for a television series, no one would have sat through it. It was worse than unscripted. It lacked purpose, direction and continuity.

They have a lot of campaign organization to attend to. Biden shived his “good friend” McCain over and over. So is that his role: let Obama take the high road while Biden stabs McCain in the back?

Biden embroiders the truth as a habit. He is prone to make stupid comments. And his attacks on McCain will only stuff the cupboard of material for Republican campaign ads. Being the junk yard dog in a political campaign wears thin pretty fast. It only feeds a small precent of the party faithful.

The democrats now have their Odd Couple in place. It will be interesting to watch them do the undecided voter dance.

jb 08.23.08 at 5:33 pm

Helio,

Right after I watched clips of Biden saying something like “Read my lips, I don’t want to be VP and will not accept the position if it is offered” and BO is not qualified to be President, I, too, watched the tawdry spectacle of Biden skewering his close friend.

Some “change” is not worth the paper it is printed on.

GusB 08.23.08 at 6:35 pm

JB, you said Ironic how we have a post-raical candidate and the enitire electorate is razor-focused upon identity/racial politics….

My reply was a declarative statement that Obama is not razor-focused on identity/racial politics. It may be that your racial antennae is very high.

These two sentences are not intended to imply that you said Obama is razor-focused on identity/racial politics, but rather, are intended to challenge your assertion that the entire electorate is focused on it. I would never say, however, that none of the electorate is focused on race, because clearly you are.

For my part, I am not focused on race, I’m focused on very basic, kitchen table matter of college tuition and expenses. (We are almost to the finish line.) I am also interested is seeing an end to the war in Iraq. Obama is focused on that.

Chris 08.23.08 at 6:39 pm

Helio,

Politics is an interesting human phenomena, isn’t it?

‘As a pilot for a television series, no one would have sat through it. It was worse than unscripted. It lacked purpose, direction and continuity.’

I did not think it lacked purpose, direction, and continuity.

‘Biden embroiders the truth as a habit. He is prone to make stupid comments. And his attacks on McCain will only stuff the cupboard of material for Republican campaign ads. Being the junk yard dog in a political campaign wears thin pretty fast. It only feeds a small precent of the party faithful.’

I think Biden has made stupid comments, and you think he is prone to do so. I can’t say enough to you, from working in politics for so long, from turning on the T.V., and to watching YouTube (’McCain’s Nightmare’ - YouTube video title) that just about every politician is prone to making some type of stupid comment. (If I say “Look at George Bush, for example” does that make me a Democrat?)

And jb,

What do you mean by “change”? I thought a lot about this today. Barack Obama has used it as a slogan, others have too, others have vilified it, others have mocked it. And yet I bet if you asked them all what change meant they would verily disagree. This is what I have learned as a Philo/Classic minor in college; people use common words in communicating to one another, assuming that the other person agrees with their own definition of the word, but actually have a different meaning in mind.

I just wonder what your definition is.

Chris 08.23.08 at 6:43 pm

Helio,

I meant to describe the phenomena in which I disagreed with your reaction and sentiment of Biden’s speech: some people see a message and have a personal opinion about it which is different than his/her neighbor. However, is it more important to see your reaction as a fact of your sentiment or your opinion?

heliotrope 08.23.08 at 9:02 pm

Chris,

I carry no brief for George W. or his father when it comes to silver tongued oratory. Dana Carvey and half the world have skewered them.

I am certain that hopeful Democrats looked at the affair today and found reason to be enthusiastic. A Saturday afternoon is not prime viewing time, so I doubt the Springfield amateur hour will have much lasting effect, in and of itself. But it was pathetic. I can assure you that the pros at staging political events were left shaking their heads.

Perhaps McCain will do as poorly when he stages his V-P debut. Nothing can be as bad as Dan Quayle all but wetting himself as he joined Bush 41 in New Orleans in 1988.

If McCain and/or his V-P choice screw up like Obama and Biden did today, I will paste them for it. I think that is the difference between me and many Obamanationalists.

Mwalimu Daudi 08.23.08 at 9:55 pm

Helio and jb - I think that you are wasting your time arguing with the Obamanation. There is a reason why Biden was announced as the Messiah’s VP in the wee hours of a Saturday morning - arguably the slowest part of the political news week. In politics nothing happens by accident, and this was no exception.

A good argument can be made that Biden was the least worst choice for the Messiah. Seriously - who else could He pick? Hillary Clinton? Imagine having hubby Bill chasing interns again on government time! John Edwards? His erstwhile mistress would be like the proverbial two-ton elephant in the room (or in this case, on the podium). Kathleen Sebelius? With the Democrat Party’s identity politics and the nuclear-hot rage it is designed to generate, choosing any woman other than Her Inevitableness will start a riot. Bill Richardson? Tim Kaine? Dennis Kucinich? Now that is scraping the bottom of the barrel!

The sad truth for Democrats is that the inexperience question is biting - hard. Thus Biden, whose own Presidential bid was a flop and whose relationship with the hard Left is rocky (the dreaded word “neocon” rears its ugly head), gets the nod. He has 36 years in the Senate - more than McCain and the Messiah combined - and if the experience has neither made him sadder nor wiser (remember that Biden was pushing the idea of partitioning Iraq into three or more provinces - what is it about Democrats and their need to divide everything?), he has at least has a bigger resume to boast about. Biden is also the consummate attack dog, which should not be overlooked in this election which is far from the 57-state cakewalk envisioned by the Messiah and His followers. Thus the 3AM Text Message from Mt. Sinai when almost everybody was asleep and the Saturday rollout when few were paying attention.

But in choosing Biden Democrats are conceding the GOP’s point - that three years experience in a Presidential nominee is not a whole lot of time with which to inspire confidence. To make things worse, both Biden and the Messiah have been disastrously wrong about Iraq, which does not bode well for the judgment of a potential Obama/Biden administration.

heliotrope 08.23.08 at 10:13 pm

Mwalimu Daudi,

Well said! Chris in #33 wrote: “people use common words in communicating to one another, assuming that the other person agrees with their own definition of the word, but actually have a different meaning in mind.”

I wonder if Chris realizes that this is the bread and butter of the demagogue? “Audacity of hope” and “change” are the Obama themes, Just where has he ever made his meaning clear? Demagogues don’t do that. It is fatal to their mission.

Mwalimu Daudi 08.23.08 at 10:55 pm

Helio - I have heard it suggested that The Text Message was sent at 3AM because the telephone companies were afraid of overloading the circuits (New Year’s-style). If so, why did no one in the Obama campaign think of that before? The self-styled Netroots prides itself on its tech savvy, and that seems like a colossal blunder to promise supporters that they would be the first to hear the news - if they could stay awake, that is. As it was, around midnight the news started to leak out.

It could have been another unforced error by Obama, but I doubt it. This night-owl stuff was planned.

jb 08.23.08 at 11:39 pm

I have a theory [however tongue in cheek]; does anyone think it floats…

Obama picked the one candidate more prone to gaffes than himself, hoping to deflect attention from his own gaffe-laden recent past.

Mwalimu Daudi 08.23.08 at 11:51 pm

Just found this quote from Mickey Klaus:

Maybe when I get to Denver I’ll find someone who’ll explain to me why Biden is an inspired choice. He doesn’t have gravitas. He has seniority. We’ve been waiting for him to mature for decades. Only Chuck Hagel (his chief competitor as Sunday morning gasbag) could make him look wise.

jb 08.24.08 at 12:02 am

Mwalimu Daudi,

Hmmmmmmmm…your post intersects nicely with the theory that Biden was not intended to be “inspiring.”

I am definitely going to have fun with the notion that BO picked a less than stellar candidate to make himself look good.

Chris 08.24.08 at 3:41 am

Helio,

“I wonder if Chris realizes that this is the bread and butter of the demagogue? “Audacity of hope” and “change” are the Obama themes, Just where has he ever made his meaning clear? Demagogues don’t do that. It is fatal to their mission.”

Well, if you think he never defined ‘change’ then I would recommend reading transcripts. He has and does.

I am not saying he has not made his definition unclear, confusing, or difficult to understand. I do think from a series of speeches and writings that what he means by change is pretty basic: change politics in the White House(or changing philosophies being used in certain key areas or issues). I think the ironic thing is that it is such a big yet simple word. I could change my phone number, change my curtains, change my mind, or even change schools. I think it is ironic that Obama has gotten to where he is in this political race on such a simple term. If U.S. citizens (and others across the world) love it so much I think it is because all current political parties want some type of change from the Bush White House. Republicans, indepedents, Democrats, and all the other parties pretty much don’t want George Bush anymore. It IS time for a new leader. That is how American government is meant to be. Obama just cashed in on that meme very well and pretty early.

Regarding you mentioning George Bush, McCain or anybody else - I don’t think you have to or need to post any gaffe or stupid statement they make just to prove you are not being hypocritical. You just don’t have to and you don’t have to prove it to me. Both candidates have made stupid gaffes, said stupid things. Maybe one more than the other (I think McCain, but I am not being very scientific here) To you, Biden was pretty uneventful. To others, he was exciting. He got some political jabs in there about McCain’s houses, and etc.

I have to share something with you if you don’t mind, actually, about this political race - They are all demagogues. All politicians. I don’t trust any of them, really. The word demagogue comes from the Ancient Greek meaning ‘leader of people’. Around that time it has been used as an insult about a leader who uses negative tools, methodologies, and rhetoric to lead people. I have seen very few politicians throughout history who haven’t manhandled their way to power. The ironic thing is that by the time the elections are up it is like people forgot what has happened 4, 8, 12, 16, or two thousand years ago in Rome.

I didn’t vote for Barack in the primaries, but I liked him. I still like him. I think he is a smart guy and a very interesting leader. But I don’t want him President. Neither do I want McCain to be President. Neither Biden, maybe Hillary only because she has been closer to that role than any of the other candidates, but she proved to me that she was just a pissed off politician at the end (so I don’t want her to be president either). Even though I enjoy Huckabee and his humor, I don’t want him to be President. I mean, we are electing these people to such power, willingly! These flawed human beings. And this is the best we have? Every four years. When was the last time we had a great intellectual as a President? And yet, these are our candidates. Believe it or not, these are, in a sense, our leaders. Barack is. John Kerry. McCain. George Bush. Al Gore. Gaffemeisters, all. One of them being interesting and uninteresting at the same time. Another one offensive and inoffensive. But we have lost track of the issues, it seems.

Lashawn, in many ways, has it right: Obama is pro-choice (or pro-infanticide if that is your language, though that is certainly some strong language. Sparta was pro-infanticide.) Yet, at least she knows where Obama is on that issue.

American1 08.24.08 at 8:03 am

WHAT THE HECK WAS OBAMA THINKING ?????? If matters could not be worse, he makes a dumb choice like this! I totally give up on this guy. He does not want to be the President of “Hope and Change” He clearly with his choice of VP set his sights on being the laughing stock of the democratic party and of America.
ENOUGH ALREADY ! McCain makes him look like a dim wit.

heliotrope 08.24.08 at 10:12 am

Chris, the ancient demagogue and the modern demagogue are as different as the the classic liberal and the modern liberal.

“Change” for the sake of change is the ideology of a cancer cell. The way nature works is change through adaptation while protecting the continuity. Sometimes, catastrophic change occurs in nature, but the educated observer knows that even then the recovery will be measured and the process will be largely understood in advance.

You say Obama wants to “change politics in the White House.” How? To what end? Those are the glaring omissions in Obama’s rhetoric. He presents no plan that would persuade a critical thinker to join with him.

I infer from your comments that since you do not want Obama to be president and you do not want McCain to be president, that you will vote, reluctantly, for Obama.

I am not wild about McCain. But, I am four-square behind him on the war on terror. I oppose partial birth abortion. I want a Supreme Court with justices who do not legislate. I want our borders sealed and sanity returned to immigration.

How am I to receive the amorphous “hope” and “change” mantra from Obama?

Obama has to gather his voters from among the dissatisfied who are susceptible to his personality and his drumbeat of “hope” and “change.”

When a voter (like me) knows the game of politics and has set his own benchmarks for performance, the attraction of a panderer is slim and none.

McCain as “four more years of Bush” is a cynical and meaningless slogan for a “hope” and “change” candidate.

I will watch the Democrat convention with great interest. Obama and Biden have a chance to give a specific picture of how they will govern and to detail their specific ideas that answer hope and change.

dooz 08.24.08 at 5:15 pm

Hey, y’all, don’t complain; his other choice was Crystal Mangum.

On second thought, maybe choosing between Biden and Mangum wasn’t that obvious a choice.

dooz 08.24.08 at 5:34 pm

#46 and related:

When Nancy Pelosi talks about change, turns out what she means is that she’s determined to replace the Republican status quo with the Democrats’ status quo.

NOBODY is seriously talking about: Instituting term limits, giving the vote back to the voters (instead of the lobbyists), truly reducing the national debt (by reducing the size of government).

It’s not all that surprising that the 18-to-35-year-olds like Obama; he’s young and attractive, and they don’t know recent history:

Jimmy Carter campaigned as a Washington outsider who was going to cut red tape. He did–lengthwise. (Also, he was an established party hack, not a true outsider.)

Bill Clinton told us he was going to do things differently. He did–he lied under oath and got impeached.

(BTW, neither of them proved able to handle international threats.)

So Sen. Daley-Machine-Hack is an outsider who is going to change things in Washington, eh? Candidate Biden promised that in 1988. He didn’t make President (got caught plagiarizing), but he’s been on the Hill ever since, and I don’t see any change in the way things are done.

Not that I’m completely thrilled/impressed by the Republicans; even so….

The Saddleback interviews left me a little less scared of Obama and a little less unimpressed by McCain. Who knows; by Novemeber, McCain might even convince me to the point where for the first time in my adult life (which takes me back to Nixon) I might vote FOR a candidate instead of AGAINST the worse of the two.

Ryan 08.24.08 at 6:40 pm

Maybe Obama pulled his head out long enough to realize that a ticket with a black man and woman on it wouldn’t fly anywhere but California and Vermont.

Chevy Rose 08.25.08 at 12:12 am

I think Joe Biden was chosen for Obama….by those same rich white guys that founded NAFTA.

As someone once said, “What experience and history teach is this….that people and governments never have learned anything from history, or acted on principles deduced from it.”

Obama is still just another lawyer hoping to feast higher up on the “pork belly” of Washington.

Joe Biden knows what buttons to push, but Obama would hold the pen, and that’s scary.

I don’t expect any improvements from John McCain either.

P.S. Have a safe and wonderful journey to California.

Pauli 08.25.08 at 10:16 am
THEBIGDODDY 08.25.08 at 2:16 pm

Dianne writes:

“Easy question.

Why not another woman? Answ: Over-the-top anger by Hillary supporters, especially women.

Why not a minority? Answ: Too much for white America to handle at one time.”

Ditto. We haven’t even made it through this election yet either.

I’m waiting for the other shoe to drop on this one as the final solution has yet to be employed.

SkyePuppy 08.25.08 at 6:01 pm

Darn! I can’t find the source. But some other blog pointed out that until the VP announcement, Obama’s campaign was a contrast between the young, handsome, articulate candidate and the old white-haired guy who gives lousy speeches. Now Obama has an old white-haired guy who gives lousy speeches on his ticket. What was he thinking?

Nikki Pratt 08.25.08 at 7:24 pm

Wait… You finally get gun rights in DC and now you’re moving to California?

Creative Dude 08.25.08 at 9:59 pm

Biden hurts Obama, but not all that much. One more thing to point out the difference between what Obama says and does.

Sarah Palin though, does that not fall under the fresh young face with no experience, is enough time to have a track record to much to ask for?

heliotrope 08.26.08 at 10:15 am

I watched Michelle Obama’s speech last night and I was impressed with her delivery, poise and grace. She certainly countered her image as an angry liberal who lets militant rhetoric fly. It was a well written and well delivered speech.

Next it will be Biden’s turn.

Then, it will be up to the voters. Will the speeches attract them or will they be moments of window dressing that soon fade in the memory? Most often what is said off the cuff has a greater impact than what is read off a teleprompter.

THEBIGDODDY 08.26.08 at 10:54 am

The image wasn’t that she was an angry LIBERAL, but she was an “angry BLACK woman”, according to the mainstream standard of how non-whites typically behave.

Her being a typical liberal, is just that-typical.

THEBIGDODDY 08.26.08 at 12:26 pm

You can read the views of other conservative believers regarding Michelle Obama’s speech right here:

http://townhall.com/news/politics-elections/2008/08/26/michelle_obama_shows_her_husbands_personal_side?page=full&comments=true#comments

BETH 08.26.08 at 1:19 pm

He meant “clean cut.” That’s a complement, or at least it used to be.

BETH 08.26.08 at 1:45 pm

Sorry, I meant “compliment.”

Kim 08.26.08 at 4:02 pm

Joe Biden……Hahaha Best thing about Joe going in as VP We as Delawareans get rid of him finally.

And those who forget, if you don’t think a VP is important,just remember if the unspeakable should happen and we lose our President we get stuck with that VP as our acting President, so your Presidential nominees VP’s choice should matter.

Gayle Miller 08.27.08 at 1:53 pm

I lived (if you can call it that) in California for 20 years. Be careful out there, dear friend. There are a lot of really horrid people in that State. Then again, the traffic is marginally better than in the District! So that’s all to the good.

Keep us informed as the great move unfolds. And yes, books have a bad habit of reproducing at night when we’re asleep. It’s the only explanation! And what a pain they are to move!

As far as the Dem Convention is concerned - yawn!

Foxx 08.28.08 at 12:05 am

Am I being too particular? Biden refers to Obama as African-American when even the AP is sensitive enough to refer to him as a Black American. African-American in the usual sense does denote black people whose families survived slavery in this country and managed to get through the Jim Crow era to create a new generation. If Obama’s black ancestors suffered at the hands of the white man, it was British colonialists, not Americans. Is AP and the MSM using “Black American” in order not to raise the issue that all of Obama’s understanding of the African-American experience is second-hand, and, frankly, gotten the easy way? He is half-African, half-American, and not authentically African-American in the usual sense that identifies a people who long suffered injustice in this country.

rawdawgbuffalo 08.28.08 at 9:06 am

happy 45th yawl

ToriM 08.29.08 at 11:17 am

Comment #64- Your logic is breathtaking. Obama’s immediate ancestral home is Kenya and he is a citizen of the United States. This makes him far more deserving of the term African-American than Black-Americans who don’t have a clear sense of their heritage beyond America, just as a Theresa Heinz Kerry is more authentically “African-American” than a Black-American who has never stepped foot on the continent. The term ‘African-American’ as traditionally used is a silly PC affectation.

J 08.31.08 at 2:32 pm

Beth - and you know what he meant by “clean”…glad to hear it. Now could you explain away the rest of his racist points in that statement and the others he has made?

J 08.31.08 at 2:36 pm

Don’t forget…Biden knows why Iowa’s youth perform better than Washington DC’s youth it is because Iowa has less black people. Keep in mind …I am the messenger….BIDEN said it.

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